[comp.editors] select region in emacs

davis@pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu ("John E. Davis") (04/05/91)

In some article, someone wrote:

      [ ...a bunch of (invalid) stuff about why emacs is no good...]
 
      What finally convinced me not to use EMACS is that it does NOT
      distinguish the selected region on the screen in any way.  Yes,
      folks, incredible as it seems, the selected region looks just the
      same as the rest of the text.  It isn't in reverse video, or
      underlined, or blinking, or a different color.  So how do you know
      where it is?  The EMACS manual says you are supposed to
      *remember*.
      
Ok this emacs cannot do.  Everything else you wrote, emacs can be made to do.
The best you can do is: ^X^X to see where the mark is, then ^X^X to return
where you were (exchange-point-and-mark).

Actually I am happy that emacs does not highlight the region for me.  This is
because I work fromn home alot at 1200 baud.  To highlight a region requires
redrawing the whole region then to un-highlight it requires redrawing it
again.  Using ^X^X twice is probably alot faster than this. My time is too
valuable for the unecessary screen redrawing.  (saving time is why I prefer
emacs in the first place!)




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mjo@irie.ais.org (Mike O'Connor) (04/05/91)

In article <DAVIS.91Apr5030139@pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu> davis@pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu  (John E. Davis) writes:

:Actually I am happy that emacs does not highlight the region for me.  This is
:because I work fromn home alot at 1200 baud.  To highlight a region requires
:redrawing the whole region then to un-highlight it requires redrawing it
:again.  Using ^X^X twice is probably alot faster than this. My time is too
:valuable for the unecessary screen redrawing.  (saving time is why I prefer
:emacs in the first place!)

However, emacs should have this feature for those that want it.  I
wouldn't go overboard trying to defend lack-of-functionality,
especially from a text editor that doubles as a newsreader and palys
Tower of Hanoi!




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Mike O'Connor <mjo@ais.org>

Dan_Jacobson@ATT.COM (04/06/91)

>>>>> On 5 Apr 91 10:06:07 GMT, mjo@irie.ais.org (Mike O'Connor) said:

Mike> In article <DAVIS.91Apr5030139@pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu> davis@pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu  (John E. Davis) writes:

:Actually I am happy that emacs does not highlight the region for me.  This is
:because I work fromn home alot at 1200 baud.  To highlight a region requires
:redrawing the whole region then to un-highlight it requires redrawing it
:again.  Using ^X^X twice is probably alot faster than this. My time is too
:valuable for the unecessary screen redrawing.  (saving time is why I prefer
:emacs in the first place!)

Mike> However, emacs should have this feature for those that want it.  I
Mike> wouldn't go overboard trying to defend lack-of-functionality,
Mike> especially from a text editor that doubles as a newsreader and palys
Mike> Tower of Hanoi!

I think I heard GNU Emacs will do that highlighting in the future version 19.

Mike> ====
Mike> Mike O'Connor <mjo@ais.org>
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xiaoy@ecf.toronto.edu (XIAO Yan) (04/06/91)

To: Dan_Jacobson@ihlpz.att.com
#because I work fromn home alot at 1200 baud.  To highlight a region requires
#redrawing the whole region then to un-highlight it requires redrawing it
#again.  Using ^X^X twice is probably alot faster than this. My time is too
#valuable for the unecessary screen redrawing.  (saving time is why I prefer
#emacs in the first place!)

	For God's sake, better modem is not that expensive.  If I were
	you who think 'time is too valuable', I would drop a few $20's to
	get a decent modem.

Xiao

berk@techsys.uucp (techsys consulting) (04/06/91)

need a faster modem?..   I will donate.

rjohnson@vela.acs.oakland.edu (R o d Johnson) (04/06/91)

In article <1991Apr5.182342.328@ecf.utoronto.ca> xiaoy@ecf.toronto.edu (XIAO  Yan) writes:
>	For God's sake, better modem is not that expensive.  If I were
>	you who think 'time is too valuable', I would drop a few $20's to
>	get a decent modem.

Jesus, I hate this attitude.  Some of us worry about making anough
money to get food on the table.  Some of us have higher priorities for
those few $20.  I'm glad you've got them to drop; don't assume
everyone does.



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peter@ficc.ferranti.com (Peter da Silva) (04/09/91)

In article <1991Apr5.182342.328@ecf.utoronto.ca> xiaoy@ecf.toronto.edu (XIAO  Yan) writes:
> 	For God's sake, better modem is not that expensive.  If I were
> 	you who think 'time is too valuable', I would drop a few $20's to
> 	get a decent modem.

2400 baud isn't that much better (I have that, and I hate programs that
select by hilighting), and 9600 or greater are more than "a few $20".
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