rcd@opus.UUCP (Dick Dunn) (11/04/85)
> >I fail to see why anyone would 'sweat' over the 386 unless they knew they > >HAD to use it on their next project. What can it do that the 68020 can't do > >better? > > Run several MS-DOS programs simultaneously with full 8086 compatibility,... So a parochial statement (roughly, 68020 is better) gets a non-response (68K processor doesn't run 86 code). OK, lessee, I can tout the uVAX (for example) and get two people to flame because it can't run either 68K or 86 code. Then someone pops up with a 32000 and three of us flame 'cause it won't run VAX or 68K or 86 code. Come on, this ain't even a decent reason to flame, let alone to post to net.arch... -- Dick Dunn {hao,ucbvax,allegra}!nbires!rcd (303)444-5710 x3086 ...Never attribute to malice what can be adequately explained by stupidity.
mdm@ecn-pc.UUCP (Mike D McEvoy) (11/10/85)
In article <200@opus.UUCP> rcd@opus.UUCP (Dick Dunn) writes: >So a parochial statement (roughly, 68020 is better) gets a non-response >(68K processor doesn't run 86 code). OK, lessee, I can tout the uVAX (for >example) and get two people to flame because it can't run either 68K or 86 >code. Then someone pops up with a 32000 and three of us flame 'cause it >won't run VAX or 68K or 86 code. Come on, this ain't even a decent reason >to flame, let alone to post to net.arch... >-- Dick, do you ever get a feeling that we have a net of HW/SW religious fanatics. Some of them get so bad (and un-objective) that we should put them to work for the various companies marketing departments. In almost all cases a 68020 or 386 will do the job fairly well in a given application. What really amazes me is that I NEVER hear any comments about the development environments.... You know, those things that really count in the order of the universe and the cost of a development program...... Big Mac "Not every thing worth doing is worth doing well" Soul of a New Machine
MEAD@usc-eclb.arpa (Dick) (11/15/85)
Message-ID: <12159281686.41.MEAD@USC-ECLB.ARPA> Everyone, put your hands on your computer and shout "HEAL" ! (now see which one is faster, 32000, 386/80xxx or 680xx).... -------
tuba@ur-tut.UUCP (Jon Krueger) (11/18/85)
>In almost all cases a 68020 or 386 will do the job fairly well in a given >application. What really amazes me is that I NEVER hear any comments about >the development environments.... You know, those things that really count >in the order of the universe and the cost of a development program...... Well said, and it needed saying, too! Although I read net.arch to get ideas on architectures and hardware that implements them, when it's time to generate code I want tools, not marketing hype. Of course, if the architecture lasts a while, it will gradually attract tools. If the tools are good and available and cheap, I can enjoy all the features of a truly superior architecture.