tzippy@dasys1.UUCP (Tzipporah BenAvraham) (03/19/89)
Telepsych(tm) a service of Blythe Systems 235 East 87 Street, #12J New York, NY 10128 Humans: Computers: Kathleen Kelly (212) 348-2875 (718) 448-2358 Bob Richards (718) 447-7663 (718) 448-2683 WHAT IS TELEPSYCH(tm)? Telepsych is a new way to use the personal computer for counseling and psychotherapy. It was developed by Kathleen Kelly and Bob Richards of Blythe Systems, and is available by subscription to social service providers and mental health professionals. TYPES OF SERVICE AVAILABLE ON TELEPSYCH A. Online Individual Counseling (1-on-1 sessions) If a therapist and client both have access to a keyboard and a modem, they can dial up the Telepsych system. With Telepsych, a client and therapist can talk in person to each other, even if they are physically unable to meet in person. It is useful for scheduling late-night or early-morning hours, and for home-bound clients (the disabled, AIDs patients, therapists who are traveling or recuperating from illness, etc.). Telepsych records the session as it is typed, and files a transcript in the therapists' confidential files. The transcripts are garbled (scrambled) for security before they are stored in archives. No one except the subscriber (not even the system operators) can read the transcripts. Questionnaires and informational files are also available to therapists and, selectively, to clients. There is a public domain software section as well, with a variety of programs geared to the needs of psychotherapists. In addition, clients and therapists can use the system in between online "visits," to leave notes about items for discussion at the next meeting, reactions to the last meeting, to record a dream for the therapist to read, etc. This use of the system can reduce some of the client's need for telephone contact between visits. B. Online Group Counseling: (from 2 to 30 participants) Telepsych is also a way for people to participate in a therapeutic support group, even if members of the group are all homebound, or in distant locations. Ordinarily, this could only be done with conference calls, which are difficult and expensive to set up. Telepsych provides a good alternative that is affordable and easy to use. Once it is installed, gaining access to a group meeting is automatic and simple. In an Online Group session, each group member simultaneously sees what every other person "says" (types) and can respond to it. A transcript of the group is created automatically by Telepsych. Other uses for Group Online Counseling include an electronic classroom for homebound students, or professional staff meetings and case conferences. C. Group Conferencing: (any number of participants) Telepsych also provides a group conferencing facility that allows group members to take part in discussions that are time-delayed. The Conference is like a series of open letters typed in by members of the group. Every person in the group can read what everyone else has written and respond to it, at their own pace, and when it is convenient. The group conference is not "live" or happening in "real-time," so people can call the system and participate any day or time they wish. The group conference is ideal for discussion groups that want to focus on specific topics, such as recovering alcoholics, Vietnam veterans' PTSD support groups, cancer patients, outpatient psychiatric patients, etc. Only authorized group members can take part in these conferences, so they provide privacy and a sense of acceptance that encourages free expression and exploration. D. Administrative Communications: (any number of participants) Anyone who subscribes to Telepsych can communicate with other subscribers, using messages that one subscriber writes online to another. Whenever subscribers call the system, they can collect their mail, read it and respond to it online. Messages can be individual notes or semi-public memos that provide rapid and reliable administrative communications. For example, suppose a multi-service network of social agencies exists with many affiliated agencies in 5 boroughs of New York City. If the administrators and staff of all those agencies could communicate through one central electronic mailbox, they simplify office routines and reduce costs. With Group Conferencing, administrative and professional staff can easily consult colleagues in other facilities on specific problems or questions. PRACTICAL INFORMATION What Equipment Do I Need? To use Telepsych, you will need a keyboard, a monitor or TV receiver, and a modem (you can use any baud rate from 300 to 19,500 bps). A personal computer is NOT needed, although with a PC you can keep copies of messages and sessions for your own records. The system is available for use 21 hours a day. The only times you can't access Telespych system are during the 3 hours when the lines are shut down for maintenance. Setting up a private Group Conferencing system on your own PC requires that you own an IBM-compatible computer with a hard disk, 640K of memory, a Hayes modem, a dedicated phone line, and a package of custom software. The system software is maintained by Blythe Systems via remote access. How Much Does It Cost? The following are tentative subscriber rates for Telepsych's different services, after an initial fee for installation and orientation to the system. There is a 3-month minimum trial subscription for new subscribers, with installation charges and one month's service deposit due on purchase of a subscription. Rates do not include sales tax. ZDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD? 3 TENTATIVE RATE SCHEDULE FOR TELEPSYCH 3 3 3 3 Basic Telco Install'n 3 3 TYPE OF SERVICE Hourly Subscription Install. +1 Month 3 3 (@1200 baud) Use * per Month Charge Deposit 3 CDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD4 3 3 3 A. Online Individ. Counseling $ 16.69 $ 200.24 $ 263.84 $ 464.08 3 3 B. Online Group Counseling ** 8.34 100.12 140.69 240.81 3 3 C. Group Conferences 1.25 15.02 0.00 15.02 3 3 D. Message Service 0.63 7.51 0.00 7.51 3 3 3 3 * Rates include 12 free hours of use per month. Excess time billed at 3 3 hourly rates shown above. Telepsych is available 21 hours a day. 3 3 3 3 ** Group Counseling charges to subscriber are per participant. 3 @DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDY One Basic subscription provides an online office available 21 hours a day for individual counseling or conferencing with another person, 12 hours of online time, transcripts of online sessions, confidential notepad faci- lity and files access. (Additional hours online are billed at $16.69/hr.) Security and Confidentiality The system is as secure as your telephone. If you would not discuss something over the phone, don't discuss it on a computer over a phone line. Otherwise, subscribers can be confident of Telepsych's confidentiality and built-in security measures. Only the authorized subscriber has access to client transcripts. For extra security, transcripts of sessions are stored as archives in a "garbled" format that requires a password to unscramble. Electronic messages that are delivered to your computer are encrypted for complete confidentiality. Each therapist also has a confidential "notebook" for private notations and reminders. LOG ON FOR A DEMONSTRATION OF TELEPSYCH CALL: 718-448-2358 Modem Parameters: N,8,1 Baud Rates: 300 OR: 718-448-2683 1200 2400 If you have a modem and a keyboard, you can see a demonstration of a working Telepsych area by calling one of the two numbers listed above. Be sure your communications software is set to the specifications listed above. When you are first connected to Telepsych, you will see Blythe System's opening screen and you'll be asked to sign in by typing your name and password. A therapist's area is available if you log on as DEMO DOCTOR. To see what the system would look like to Demo Doctor's client, log on again and use the name DEMO CLIENT. The password for both demonstrations is: demo (Type demo just as it appears here, using lower-case letters). Once you are logged onto the system, you'll see a list of choices called a "menu." Just choose the option you want by pressing the <K>ey indicated in the menu, and then press "Return." On the next screens you will see a sample of what the Telepsych demonstration will show you: A SAMPLE THERAPIST LOGON (set your modem parameters to N, 8, 1; then dial one of the numbers above) - ---==WELCOME TO==--- - - - ------- ///////// // // // /////////// // // //////// - ------ // // // // // // // // // -- ----- // // // // // // // // // --- ---- ///////// // // // // ////////// /////// ---- --- // // // // // // // // ----- -- // // // // // // // // ------ - ///////// ///////// // // // // //////// ------- -------- -------- ------- // // //////// //////////// --------- ------ //// // // // ---------- ----- // // // // // ----------- ---- // // // /////// // ------------ --- // // // // // ------------- -- // //// // // /// -------------- - // // ///////// // /// --------------- - - - ---==People Reaching People==--- - You See: <==YOU TYPE: First name: DEMO (HIT RETURN) <== Last name: DOCTOR (HIT RETURN) <== DEMO DOCTOR calling from NY, NY, is that correct? Y (HIT RETURN) <== Password: demo (HIT RETURN) <== type "demo" in lower case Now you will see a welcome statement and be notified of any mail waiting for you. You can read it now, or later, as you like. Next you will reach Demo Doctor's "online office." Here is Demo Doctor's main menu: THERAPIST'S MAIN MENU: ZDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD? 3 Welcome to Telepsych 3 3 Doctor's Office Online 3 <-- THERAPIST'S NAME GOES HERE. CDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD4 3 <M>ailbox - Enter/Read Messages 3 3 3 3 <K>eyboard Therapy Session 3 3 <N>otepad 3 <-- invisible to clients 3 3 3 <R>ead Today's Transcript 3 <-- only therapist can read this 3 <D>ownload Previous Transcripts 3 <-- only therapist can do this 3 3 3 <S>oftware 3 <-- optional on client menus 3 <C>onferences 3 <-- optional on client menus 3 3 3 <A>nnouncements 3 3 <!>Change your announcements 3 3 <H>elp & System Information 3 3 <-> Return to Previous Menu 3 3 <G>oodbye for now 3 @DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDY Each of the choices listed will take you to another service area of Telepsych. Each choice in order reveals these menus: CHOOSE <M> FOR MAILBOX: ZDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD? 3 3 3 Telepsych Messages 3 CDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD4 3 3 3 <Q>uick Scan messages 3 3 <R>ead Messages 3 3 <E>nter a message 3 3 3 3 <H>elp & System Information 3 3 <-> Return to Previous Menu 3 3 <G>oodbye for now 3 @DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDY CHOOSE <A> FOR ANNOUNCEMENTS: ZDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD? 3 Telepsych Announcements 3 3 Doctor's Office Online 3 <--therapist's name here CDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD4 3 3 3 <1> Welcome to Telepsych 3 3 <2> General Information 3 3 <3> Suicide: Questions & Answers 3 3 <4> Post-Traumatic Stress 3 <--YOUR CHOICE OF WHAT ANNOUNCEMENTS 3 Disorder: PTSD 3 APPEAR. @DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDY CHOOSE <N> FOR NOTEPAD: ZDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD? 3 3 3 Confidential Notepad 3 <-- therapist only can see this CDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD4 section. 3 <E>nter a note 3 3 3 3 <Q>uickscan your notes 3 3 <R>ead your notes 3 3 <#>Delete a note 3 3 3 3 <H>elp & System Information 3 3 <-> Return to Previous Menu 3 3 <G>oodbye for now 3 @DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDY CHOOSE <C> FOR CONFERENCES: ZDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD? 3 Welcome to Telepsych 3 3 Group Conference Selection 3 CDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD4 3 3 3 <R>ecovering Alcoholics 3 3 3 3 <A>IDS/ARC 3 3 3 3 <V>ietnam Veterans' Rap Group 3 3 3 3 <P>sychiatric OPD Group 3 3 3 3 <C>omputers in Social Service 3 3 3 3 <H>elp & System Information 3 3 3 3 <-> Return to Previous Menu 3 3 <G>oodbye for now 3 @DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDY CHOOSE <S> FOR SOFTWARE: ZDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD? 3 3 3 Software & Files 3 CDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD4 3 3 3 <1> Quiz: General Psychology 3 <-- Therapist decides what goes 3 <2> PTSD Symptom Checklist 3 here, and whether clients have 3 3 access. 3 <L>ist Files for Downloading 3 3 3 3 <H>elp & System Information 3 3 <-> Return to Previous Menu 3 3 <G>oodbye for now 3 3 3 @DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDY If you choose "<L>ist Files for Downloading," a list like this appears: Telepsych Files Text Files (use ASCII download protocol to read online) ------------------------------------------------------- PTSD_1.TXT 27648 Posttraumatic Stress Disorder, Part I STRESSMA.LD 12416 Stress:Effect on learning disabilities ESTEEM.SLF 18560 Info Resources: learning disabilities SETECH.LU 30848 Large list of Special Educ Resources JRNLS.LD 4864 Learning Disability: publications Programs and questionnaires (Use XModem or YModem to download) -------------------------------------------------------------- PTSD.QAF 5120 TBBS questionnaire: PTSD symptoms MYERBRIG.EXE 48128 Meyer-Briggs type Inventory program DSM3R.ARC 121395 Assists diagnosis per DSM III-R STRESS.ARC 4096 Stressful Life Events rating scale pgm STRESSDX.ARC 14336 Simpler version, Life Events pgm BMOD1.ARC 209920 Behavior Mod Interactive Teaching Pgm Archived Files (use ARC.EXE or ARCE.COM to extract) ------------------------------------------------------- LEARNDIS.ARC 34905 Resources for learning disabled A SAMPLE CLIENT LOGON Here are the same menus, showing what the client will see: CLIENT'S MAIN MENU: ZDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD? 3 Welcome to Telepsych 3 3 Doctor's Office on Line 3 <-- Therapist's Name here CDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD4 3 <A>nnouncements 3 <-- Gives Client a choice of reading 3 3 (announcements, articles, etc.) 3 <K>eyboard Therapy Session 3 3 3 3 <M>ailbox - Enter/Read Messages 3 <-- private mail, public notes 3 <S>oftware 3 <-- access can be restricted or open 3 3 3 <H>elp & System Information 3 3 <-> Return to Previous Menu 3 3 <G>oodbye for now 3 @DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDY CHOOSE <A> FOR ANNOUNCEMENTS: ZDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD? 3 Telepsych Announcements 3 3 Doctor's Office Online 3 CDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD4 3 3 3 <1> Welcome to Telepsych 3 3 <2> General Information 3 3 <3> Suicide: Questions & Answers 3 3 <4> Post-Traumatic 3 3 Stress Disorder 3 @DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDY CHOOSE <M> FOR MESSAGES: ZDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD? 3 3 3 Telepsych Messages 3 CDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD4 3 3 3 <Q>uick Scan messages 3 3 <R>ead Messages 3 3 <E>nter a message 3 3 3 3 <H>elp & System Information 3 3 <-> Return to Previous Menu 3 3 <G>oodbye for now 3 @DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDY CHOOSE <S> FOR SOFTWARE: ZDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD? 3 3 3 Software & Files 3 CDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD4 3 3 3 <1> Quiz: General Psychology 3 3 <2> PTSD Symptom Checklist 3 3 3 3 <L>ist Files for Downloading 3 3 3 3 <H>elp & System Information 3 3 <-> Return to Previous Menu 3 3 <G>oodbye for now 3 3 3 @DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDY <L> will present a list of files to read or download. Telepsych(tm) a service of Blythe Systems 235 East 87 Street, #12J New York, NY 10128 Modem: (718) 448-2358 & (718) 448-2683 ** PLEASE NOTE: THIS IS A DEMONSTRATION ONLY. ** The transcript excerpts you will read here are taken from actual sessions, and have been disguised to preserve confidentiality. However, if this were a real therapist's section, downloading and reading files would not be possible without the therapist's password. As with this Demonstration, all therapists' Online Offices contain files that can be read *only* by the subscriber therapist. In a real working area, there is more security than in this demonstration. The transcript files are "garbled" to make them unreadable to anyone, even if someone did obtain them. Breeches of Telepsych's security are nearly impossible, but if it did happen, the files would be meaningless, since only the subscriber's secret password will unscramble the garbled transcripts. ** PLEASE NOTE: ** ** THESE TRANSCRIPTS MAY CONTAIN FRANK LANGUAGE. ** If you feel you may be offended by frank language, please do NOT read any further! EXCERPT #1 FROM AN ONLINE KEYBOARD SESSION: <THERAPIST> hello S.; ready to begin? <PT.> Hello! Yes -- all set. Did you get my message? <THERAPIST> good. Yes I did -- interesting! Is that what you'd like to talk about today? <PT.> Yeah; i also remembered a dream while driving home too, weird. THERAPIST> yeah? tell PT.> well, it was a dream from last night. i was there at your office, ready to leave, you say to me 'it's cold outside' and hand me a pair of earmuffs, we go down the elevator together, and i walk outside without the earmuffs on, i start to freeze, and feel very cold all over. i put on the muffs and instantly i was warm all over again. i marvel at how the muffs warm all of me, not just my ears. THERAPIST> end of dream? PT.> yes. THERAPIST> ok. tell me how you felt in the dream, go thru it with feelings. what were earmuffs like? I stayed inside? PT.> the earmuffs were round, grey, very furry, and very warm. they felt very good. but i felt that they would do little good against the bitter cold. i didn't believe they would do much good, but the cold was so painful and cutting, that i wanted even the little relief they would afford. when i put the muffs on, i feel instant warmth all over, and feel very very good about what you gave me, at first i see the muffs as inadequate for the task, when i use them however, they perform better than they are expecetd to.... warm the entire body, all is warm....furry, comfy. i feel surprised at the power of the muffs. THERAPIST> any thoughts? PT.> sort of, i don't really. you have given me new ways of coping and understand, but i don't feel they are weak or inadaquate, and i don't feel they are not up to the task... ???? as usual, it's not clear. THERAPIST> as usual? ... THERAPIST> ok; well, i agree, it is about therapy, partly. Since it is about the power of something you thought inadequate, not up to the task, it may be that you felt some doubt about the efficacy of therapy. It would not be unusual. surely you must have felt moments of doubt that what we were doing was truly going to be successful. PT.> i didn't realy think in those terms at all. i had found a friend, one to talk to, one to listen, one who i could trust to do right, and one i felt i could call at any time and you would help, or send help if needed. i never thought of this as a long-term thing. i just felt i found a friend, and all was getting better. THERAPIST> ah. Well, let's look at the paragraph about the feelings in the dream again: ... (BEGIN QUOTE) PT.> the earmuffs were round, grey, very furry, and very warm. they felt very good. but i felt that they would do little good against the bitter cold. i didn't believe they would do much good, but the cold was so painful and cutting, that i wanted even the little reliefe they would afford. when i put the muffs on, i feel instant warmth all over, and feel very very good about what you gave me, at first i see the muffs as inadaquate for the task, when i use them however, they perform better than they are expecetd to.... warm the entire body, all is warm....furry, comfy. i feel surprised at the power of the muffs. (END OF QUOTE) THERAPIST> you read it fast, what do you get -- what images? PT.> going outside into the cold, freezing, feel bad, wear your muffs, and all is well. --- funny i remembered it as i turned right onto highway, just popped into memory. THERAPIST> how come? do you think? PT.> no idea. i remembered 'dreaming' and that dream in particular. there were others, but i just remembered the details of that one. i was thinking about you, about today, about therapy, ..... and then i remembered dreaming, and that dream. are you sleepy too? THERAPIST> no; just thinking; what were you thinking about specifically about today re therapy? PT.> was just thinking how good things are on all fronts, how things in general are all in perspective, and all is under control, or at least understood well enough that it's not a problem. i feel safe and cared for... it is a good time! was thinking along those lines. THERAPIST> and the dream is consistent with that thought. ... EXCERPT #2 FROM AN ONLINE KEYBOARD SESSION: <PT.> ... awaiting arrival of shrink ... awaiting arrival of shrink <THERAPIST> hi L --,; sorry i am late. <PT.> Hello Not late.... I had time to collect thoughts. <THERAPIST> good. so ... job offer? <PT.> Yeah; seems they are at least interested. Even though no budget yet I do have to temper enthuiasm... they will think I am overdoing it <THERAPIST> why don't any of these people have budgets yet? are THEY working for nothing?? (consultants) -- How come they have money for consultants but not for salaries? <PT.> Oh; well, no problem, Just another interview, been on hundreds, I think I am an expert. They are in need of exactly what I am. But have no budget till june. This would be good to sew up, and have it in the bag so to speak for summer. <THERAPIST> what happens when you go on an interview -- not necessarily one like this, but a job interview -- like N Co., etc? what is going on in your head? you out to dazzle them? <PT.> Hmmmm I am out to show them that I am the best they could possibly find, I interrview the interviewer too, both to learn about the company and also to let her know that I am deciding as well whether or not to grace them with my presence. <THERAPIST> people may be intimidated by you on the one hand, and convinced that you must be crazy on the other. sometimes both, i think. you come on very strong, people may resent it, or think it is inappropriate. <PT.> I have had almost 100% success with it in corporations. I learned that if you bargain from a position of strength it wins. <THERAPIST> these people are not corporations. they may think -- if you aren't sort of nuts, maybe you are an industrial spy -- yes, they might well think so. Because of your willingness to help them. see? the response i had above -- "how come the X Co. has a budget for the consultant? " -- is more appropriate to someone who isn't about to work for nothing. But you need to seduce each job interviewer, wanting to be wanted each time -- lots of emotional energy in it & people may pick that up. you want to show them you are the best they could POSSIBLY EVER GET? hmmm -- who you proving yourself to? <PT.> It just started that way. I got the job at M, Inc., and I was totally unqualified for it; had to go to night school and cram just to do my work, I projected an image of super-competence to compensate for my own feelings of inadaquacy, but it worked... Each time I used it, it worked, and I was able go from one kind of publishing to another, totally different areas... Each move, was a move into a different field, one I was totally unfamilliar with. So that sense of "oh shit! I don't know anything about this stuff" wasn't apparent to the interviewer. THERAPIST> right. we are getting to something important now. Each time, it was an area that was totally unfamiliar -- your phrase. Why? How come you ended up with the same same sort of "challenge"-- or struggle -- each time you switched jobs? Ever wonder about that? <PT.> No; I never wondered, or even connected it that way before. I understand that I am dealing with healthy, or at least healthier, people now, people who don't want a crazed worker running around doing everything. THERAPIST> ... that's true, healthy folks are not going to be impressed with a neurotic manic number. In corporations, you can do a neurotic tango with the next level of authority, cause they are into it too. It happens in small co's, but less. <THERAPIST> anyway -- you have a wonderful pattern of self- fulfilling prophecy -- you end up a fraud in your own eyes no matter what you do. then a pattern of resentment begins that ends in a blow-up with a radical switch to a new sub-specialty, because you don't like having to put up a supernova image -- but you have to, and because you feel guilty at the "fraud" and you have to work so hard (you think) to cover over the "fraud," you start getting very angry at the people you feel you must pretend in front of. any of this make sense? <PT.> Thinking... Yes and no... It's true, I supernova into a joint, then supernova around, dazzle all.... once all dazzled I want to slow down to normal speed, that's when the trouble begins; the slowdown is opposed, and I fight back, citing the supernova. <THERAPIST> why do you do a supernova to begin with? ... ... if it is hard, try imagining what would happen if you went to an interview and did NOT do a supernova. what would happen? <PT.> To be honest, I don't feel "confident"... Or more accurately I think I am being perceived as incompetent, so the supernova to dispell the perception, which is realy a belief (thought?) and not an external reality at all. <THERAPIST> right you got it. now, where does THAT come from? <PT.> thinking ... it comes from the feelings I had of never being able to do anything right as a child as far as my mother was concerned <THERAPIST> Does it feel similar? <PT.> similar... pretty much same. it feels the same now that I think about the feelings then and on certain interviews <THERAPIST> did you do the same thing with your mother in response? razzle-dazzle? <PT.> yes... you know? i did. <THERAPIST> can you think of an example? <PT.> yes.... thinking ... YMCA camp. dazzled her with info about camp.... about me. <THERAPIST> super-enthusiasm? like, look how much i know & i have learned? <PT.> yes... and look, i swam the 5 mile swim, went the 50 mile cannoe trip.. et. <THERAPIST> so you never stopped trying, struggling to get her approval. what would happen? Did you ever get her approval? <PT.> no.... as good as i did, i 'could have done better' FUCK!!!!!!! THERAPIST> so, you had to keep it up all the time, and in the end you had to do even more. Then you got understandably angry--furious, because here you had been knocking yourself out -- and you get conditional love. Do more or no more love. Does this sound right? <PT.> yes indeed... i live in a world of always having to do it better, never is realy good enough. <THERAPIST> yeah, and that's very frustrating. Yet you are locked into it -- the environment demands it of you because you set it up that way. Now, you know intellectually that you are not incompetent but you are afraid of being perceived as -- god forbid -- ordinarily good? <PT.> yes..... you see 'ordinarily good' was bad to my mom. hell man i got beat up for poor grades, or for a comment like 'is not performing up to ability' PUNISHMENT is prescribed to those who fuck off. <THERAPIST> yes, i can understand it. Better than the rest of the neighborhood, but also somehow worse. That feeling of being a superior being, but a fraudulent one. Well, Mom can't beat you up any more, and the world is not Mother. <PT.> Thank nature! <THERAPIST> you can free yourself from those things that detract from enjoyment of your work -- things that have a driven quality are not much fun. the world is full of razzle-dazzle ripoffs. The real experts tend to be quiet about it, assured and knowledgeable, but not "selling". you are a real expert, but your effort to be THE BEST EVER POSSIBLE may be doing some harm in these interviews. <PT.> right! things with driven qualities to them are exciting for a short time, then it's tiring. I have always been attracted to situations which are 'driven' <THERAPIST> yeah, mental health via moderation sometimes seems very dull, perhaps? <PT.> not dull, different, requiring different life habits. old habits are always with us... this one i never saw at all. <THERAPIST> until today <PT.> right.. It's not going to be easy being "real" on an interview. <THERAPIST> do you think you can relax a little about being so fucking wonderful?? you don't have to add anything -- just relax a little. <PT.> this life habit is involved in all of me. Not just my job/interview history. <THERAPIST> i know that -- wherever you find yourself doing a super sell, you might think about whether you have that same sort of driven need to be perfect all the time -- you know? If you are in a struggle, it isn't much fun and eventually you are going to get pretty damn pissed at whomever you have put out all this energy for. ... FOR MORE INFORMATION about Telepsych(tm) please address your enquiries to... Blythe Systems 235 East 87 Street, #12J New York, NY 10128 or call: Bob Richards (718) 447-7663 Bob Richards is an electrical engineer, designer and microcomputer specialist. In addition to his private consulting and running Telepsych, he is the Sysop of the NY Transfer, a free bulletin board system in New York City. Kathleen Kelly (212) 348-2875 Kathleen Kelly earned her doctorate in social psychology at the City University of New York and is currently a psychotherapist in private practice. She bought her first microcomputer in 1982. Tzipporah BenAvraham Big Electric Cat Public UNIX ..!cmcl2!phri!dasys1!tzippy -- Tzipporah BenAvraham Big Electric Cat Public UNIX ..!cmcl2!phri!dasys1!tzippy
mark@intek01.UUCP (Mark McWiggins) (03/22/89)
From article <9045@dasys1.UUCP>, by tzippy@dasys1.UUCP (Tzipporah BenAvraham): > > > Telepsych(tm) > a service of Blythe Systems > 235 East 87 Street, #12J > New York, NY 10128 Looks like they're not kidding about this ... How do we know it's not just ELIZA on the other end? :) But seriously ... typed text carries so much less information than an in-person interview (body language) or even a phone call (hesitations, tone of voice) that it seems of very limited value for therapy. You can say "I love you" in such a way that it means "Beat it, I'm working and I don't want to talk with you right now", but that doesn't come across on the tube at 1200 bps. Maybe when real-time holography comes along this would be more an option, for those who can do without a hug anyhow ...
eliot@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Eliot Handelman) (03/22/89)
In article <9045@dasys1.UUCP> tzippy@dasys1.UUCP (Tzipporah BenAvraham) writes: > If a therapist and client both have access to a keyboard and a modem, >they can dial up the Telepsych system. Wow, this sounds great! >With Telepsych, a client and >therapist can talk in person to each other, even if they are physically >unable to meet in person. Great! Now I don't have to listen to my therapist's rotten voice! It is useful for scheduling late-night or >early-morning hours, and for home-bound clients (the disabled, AIDs >patients, therapists who are traveling or recuperating from illness, etc.). Gee, that does sound pretty useful! >Telepsych records the session as it is typed, and files a transcript in the >therapists' confidential files. Wow! I guess the therapist will study the transcript later on and tell me what's wrong with me! They must work pretty hard! >The transcripts are garbled (scrambled) >for security before they are stored in archives. Boy, that'll prevent malfeasants from getting into the twisted details of my therapy! >No one except the >subscriber (not even the system operators) can read the transcripts. I'll bet he needs a special password, huh? > Questionnaires and informational files are also available to >therapists and, selectively, to clients. Can I read them over my modem too? There is a public domain software >section as well, with a variety of programs geared to the needs of >psychotherapists. This is great! For sure they're better than the doctor that comes with GNU emacs! > In addition, clients and therapists can use the system in between >online "visits," to leave notes about items for discussion at the next >meeting, reactions to the last meeting, to record a dream for the therapist >to read, etc. Holy cow! You mean, I can actually send mail by computer? That's just so incredibly rad! What'll they think of next! > Telepsych is also a way for people to participate in a therapeutic >support group, even if members of the group are all homebound, or in >distant locations. You mean, people just like me? I've made a lot of friends on 972-FUCK! Ordinarily, this could only be done with conference >calls, which are difficult and expensive to set up. Really! 972-FUCK costs a buck for the first minute! >Telepsych provides a >good alternative that is affordable and easy to use. I'm sold! When do we start? Once it is installed, >gaining access to a group meeting is automatic and simple. I knew it was too good to be true! This thing hasn't even been installed? The >Conference is like a series of open letters typed in by members of the >group. Great! Great! This is going to be better than usenet, which is a series of letters typed in by memebers of the group! Every person in the group can read what everyone else has written >and respond to it, at their own pace, and when it is convenient. Great, because the big problem with usenet is that I always find myself responding when it's most inconvenient! The group conference >is ideal for discussion groups that want to focus on specific topics, such >as recovering alcoholics, Vietnam veterans' PTSD support groups, cancer >patients, outpatient psychiatric patients, etc. Whoa! These people sound like the same ones who contribute to usenet! Only authorized group >members can take part in these conferences, so they provide privacy and a >sense of acceptance that encourages free expression and exploration. Oh I get it! So it's like a hand-picked usenet! Gee, I wonder if they'll accept me! > Anyone who subscribes to Telepsych can communicate with other >subscribers, using messages that one subscriber writes online to another. Great! Great! I want to communicate with other outpatient psychiatric patients! >Whenever subscribers call the system, they can collect their mail, read it >and respond to it online. Great! Great!! I'll look forward to getting mail from those outpatient pschiatric patients! I'll bet they have a lot of interesting things to say! > The system is available for use 21 hours a day. The only times you >can't access Telespych system are during the 3 hours when the lines are >shut down for maintenance. Great! That way I can get 3 hours sleep! >ZDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD? >3 TENTATIVE RATE SCHEDULE FOR TELEPSYCH 3 After looking at these rates, it may be cheaper to stick to 972-FUCK!