[alt.config] Moderation time?

allbery@ncoast.UUCP (09/02/87)

As quoted from <1691@rti.UUCP> by wfi@rti.UUCP (William Ingogly):
+---------------
| And that's why I'm unsubscribing to a newsgroup I've obtained occasional 
| enjoyment from over the past several years. I don't feel many of the
| posters out there share any of my interests in the genre, and I am leaving
| this group for the same reason I unsubscribed to Amazing magazine: it bores 
| ...
| If you want to know what originally brought me to this group (I doubt
| many of you care), ask some of the old-timers about the exchanges we
| had in the past: myself, Charlie Martin, Davis Tucker, Laura Creighton,
| Steve Brust, and others. It seems anyone who cares about the genre on
| more than a trivial level has disappeared from the group. Adios to any
+---------------

Of couse, some of these people (Brust) are no longer on the net, as far as I
know.

Maybe it's time to set up a moderated alt.sf-lovers newsgroup for the *real*
SF-Lovers (define "real"/my SF is better than yours!/nyaah nyahh/etc. to
/dev/null).  Any volunteers for moderator?  (DON'T ask me!  I'll do it as
a last resort, but I'd like to see someone else (Laura Creighton?) try it
first.)

Followups should probably be directed to alt.config.
-- 
	    Brandon S. Allbery, moderator of comp.sources.misc
  {{harvard,mit-eddie}!necntc,well!hoptoad,sun!mandrill!hal}!ncoast!allbery
ARPA: necntc!ncoast!allbery@harvard.harvard.edu  Fido: 157/502  MCI: BALLBERY
   <<ncoast Public Access UNIX: +1 216 781 6201 24hrs. 300/1200/2400 baud>>
** Site "cwruecmp" has changed its name to "mandrill".  Please re-address **
*** all mail to ncoast to pass through "mandrill" instead of "cwruecmp". ***

allbery@ncoast.UUCP (09/04/87)

As quoted from <177@hal.UUCP> by ane@hal.UUCP (Aydin "Bif" Edguer):
+---------------
| In article <4303@ncoast.UUCP> allbery@ncoast.UUCP (Brandon Allbery) writes:
| >As quoted from <1691@rti.UUCP> by wfi@rti.UUCP (William Ingogly):
| >+---------------
| >| I don't feel many of the posters out there share any of my interests ...
| >+---------------
| >
| >Of couse, some of these people (Brust) are no longer on the net, as far as I
| >know.
| 
| 	As far as I know SKZB is still out there on the net.  He is just
| being very quiet, maybe something to do with holding down a "real" job and
| writing at the same time or maybe he just thinks alot of us (Sorry, make
| that read "alot of OTHERS who act like jerks") are not worth his patience.
| My info may be out of date but I have his E-mail address as starfire!brust.
+---------------

I seem to remember a message on the net from him saying that he was quitting
his job to write full-time, and as a result would no longer have net access.

+---------------
| >Maybe it's time to set up a moderated alt.sf-lovers newsgroup for the *real*
| >SF-Lovers (define "real"/my SF is better than yours!/nyaah nyahh/etc. to
| >/dev/null).  Any volunteers for moderator?  (DON'T ask me!  I'll do it as
| >a last resort, but I'd like to see someone else (Laura Creighton?) try it
| >first.)
| 
| Hmm.  I like the idea of a more moderated group than the current chaos
| of sf-lovers but what do you (everyone) want to see in it?  What would
| you not want to see in it?  In other words, what should the moderator
| be returning to sender (or posting to sf-lovers)?
+---------------

(a) Redistribute startrek & drwho stuff (I read both, our rn mishandles
    crosspostings for an unknown reason, and reading stuff twice is boring).
    Possibly to include a mailing list for the people who can't receive
    drwho and startrek stuff.

(b) Flame wars to /dev/null.  (PLEASE!!!)

(c) Filter out the sagans (e.g. `billyuns and billyuns') of responses to
    title requests.  Post exactly ONE response, junk the rest.  Perhaps
    summarize after receiving a number of them, so as to include maximum
    information with minimum noise.

(d) A system of classifications would be nice, and could perhaps replace
    (a) above.  I envision something like rec.humor.funny, involving the
    Keywords: field; keywords would be chosen by the moderator.  The idea
    is to produce a list of keywords which may then be selected/junked
    via kill files, so that people see what they're interested in without
    having to wade through what they don't care about.
    
(e) The moderator should encourage rational postings.  Perhaps s/he could
    accept a submission but send the poster a set of guidelines (form
    letter?  I use them in sources.misc) for postings.  They should probably
    include such things as:  no flames or personal attacks, don't combine
    dissimilar subjects (necessary for the keyword system to work properly),
    don't post things in the "Ten Most Asked..." list for the group, etc.

(f) A "Ten Most Asked..." list should be maintained, and postings on subjects
    included therein shouldn't be accepted unless they shed new light on the
    subject.  (#1 on the list should be Heinlein Bashing.  What's left to be
    said that wasn't said a few months ago, or a few months before that, or
    a few months before that, or....  I'm sure we can come up with a list
    of subjects suitable for inclusion here.)  It should be posted by the
    moderator every so often, to answer the questions before they're asked.
    (Keyword="most asked" for those who don't want to see it again?)

These guidelines would (hopefully) keep the noise at a very low level without
stifling interesting postings.  I have tried to keep the number of value
judgements to a minimum, to reduce the possibility of censorship on unpopular
opinions.
-- 
	    Brandon S. Allbery, moderator of comp.sources.misc
  {{harvard,mit-eddie}!necntc,well!hoptoad,sun!mandrill!hal}!ncoast!allbery
ARPA: necntc!ncoast!allbery@harvard.harvard.edu  Fido: 157/502  MCI: BALLBERY
   <<ncoast Public Access UNIX: +1 216 781 6201 24hrs. 300/1200/2400 baud>>
** Site "cwruecmp" has changed its name to "mandrill".  Please re-address **
*** all mail to ncoast to pass through "mandrill" instead of "cwruecmp". ***