[alt.config] Removing alt.sources.amiga

jfh@rpp386.Dallas.TX.US (John F. Haugh II) (03/18/89)

In article <3455@ficc.uu.net> peter@ficc.uu.net (Peter da Silva) writes:
>(I'm not going to flame...)

Somehow it came out like so much political posturing anyway.

>When there is a need for strenuous activity, I undertake strenuous activity.
>So long as Bob Page is alive and well, why should I add to the network load?
>Back when comp.sources.amiga was dead I not only published a great quantity of
>material, but actually checked and fixed bugs in everything I posted. Which
>is a good deal more than most moderators do.

>Also, the subject at hand is whether Brad Templeton should be summarily ousted
>from his position. He's doing his job, and I don't think anyone will deny
>that he's doing it well. It's just his extracurricular activity that's in
>question.

The subject at hand is whatever the poster chooses to make it be.  The
topic right now is the removal of alt.sources.amiga.

Here is the recently posted index of the _entire_ existence of Peter's
newsgroup.  You be the judge.  I removed the blank lines and collapsed
multi-part listings.

+--
|alt.sources.amiga index.
|
|Size	Posted	File Name	Description.
|
|37162	Jul 13	bind.shar.Z	Convert .fd files to libraries. Bill Barton.
| 6331	Jul 24	tmpras.shar.Z	Create a TmpRas structure. Pat White.
|41407	Jul 30	mackie.shar.Z	Macro key handler. Tom Rokicki.
|11929	Jul 31	maze.shar.Z	3-d maze gen. and display. Werner Guenther.
| 6603	Aug  9	pcpatch.shar.Z	Patch PCutils for 3.5" drive. Werner Guenther.
|25631	Aug 20	bcpl.shar.Z	Call BCPL from 'C'. Bill Kinnersly.
|12327	Aug 21	data2obj.sh.Z	Convert file to object module. Werner Guenther.
|25964	Aug 22	arpbind.1.Z	ARP programmer's bindings (archived only).
|[ 4 parts ]
|24136	Sep 11	ipc.demosrc.Z	Pete/Peter IPC sources.
|[ 4 parts ]
| 3386	Sep 18	launch.shar.Z	Launch worknbench program from CLI
| 9600 	Sep 29	flipper.sh.Z	Screen Flipper.
|22446	Oct 15	meter.sh.Z	3-channel fuel gauge.
+--

This IS NOT an example of strenuous activity.  This IS an example of
political posturing.

This is the 'ls -s' output for the c.s.{unix,misc,games} indices:

  24 /usr/jfh/usenet/index.games.Z
  18 /usr/jfh/usenet/index.misc.Z
  72 /usr/jfh/usenet/index.unix.Z

Those numbers are the sizes of the 16 bit compressed files in 512
byte blocks.  Even the smallest index, c.s.misc, contains more blocks
than Peter's newsgroup contains submissions.

I will also mention that Peter has told me in private mail he would
have supported the rmgroup had he been asked first.  Obviously he
cares about the politics of newsgroup creation and removal more than
the fact we still have this totally worthless newsgroup.  At some point
in time the net must accept the responsiblity for keeping its house
clean.

I forget the source of this quote, but I think it applies here quite
well
	``If not you, who.  If not now, when?''

Alt is a bloody mess.  Who wants to DO SOMETHING to clean it up?
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emv@math.lsa.umich.edu (Edward Vielmetti) (03/18/89)

In article <13744@rpp386.Dallas.TX.US> jfh@rpp386.Dallas.TX.US (John F. Haugh II) writes:
>Alt is a bloody mess.  Who wants to DO SOMETHING to clean it up?

it's ok for alt to be a mess.  lots of people in alt groups like it
that way.

now get the hell out of my namespace, I like it just as it is.

--Ed