Luca.Ciastellardi@p8.f307.n331.z2.fidonet.org (Luca Ciastellardi) (12/02/90)
I do still not know exactly the manner the virus can be caught, i mean i don'know if the spit is dangerous, for how much time, if the cough is dangerous, if the blood on a safe skin etc... I wish to have some serious answer and very precise! -- Uucp: ...{gatech,ames,rutgers}!ncar!asuvax!stjhmc!2!331!307.8!Luca.Ciastellardi Internet: Luca.Ciastellardi@p8.f307.n331.z2.fidonet.org
The.Bird@f38.n135.z1.fidonet.org (The "Bird") (12/03/90)
>I do still not know exactly the manner the virus can be caught, >i mean i don'know if the spit is dangerous, for how much time, if the cough is >dangerous, if the blood on a safe skin etc... >I wish to have some serious answer and very precise! According to the Surgen General's report (March 3, 1988): Page 13 - There is no known risk of non-sexual infection in most of the situations we encounter in our daily lives. We know that family members living with individuals who have the AIDS virus do not become infected except through sexual contact. THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OF TRANSMISSION(SPREAD) OF AIDS VIRUS BY EVERYDAY CONTACT EVEN THOUGH THESE FAMILY MEMBERS SHARED FOOD, TOWELS, CUPS, RAZORS, EVEN TOOTHBRUSHES, AND KISSED EACH OTHER........ Page 16 - Although the AIDS virus is found in several body fluids, a person acquires the virus during sexual contact with an infected person's blood or semen and possibly vaginal secretions. The virus then enters a person's blood stream through their rectum vagina or penis......... Page 21 - Everyday living does not present any risk of infection. You CANNOT get AIDS from casual social contact. Casual social contact should not be confused with casual sexual contact which IS a major cause of the spread of the AIDS virus. Casual social contact such as shaking hands, hugging, social kissing, crying, coughing or sneezing, will not transmit the AIDS virus. Nor has AIDS been transmitted from swimming in pools or bathing in hot tubs or from eating in restaurants(even if a restaurant worker has AIDS or carries the AIDS virus.) AIDS is not contracted from sharing bed linens, towels, cups, straws, dishes or any other eating utensils. You cannot get AIDS from toilets, doorknobs, telephones, office machinery, or household furniture. You cannot get AIDS from body massages, masturbation or any nonsexual contact. From AIDS - THE FACTS by John Langone (1988): .....it is highly improbable that exposure to toilet seats, drinking glasses, doorknobs, shower stalls, or food touched by an AIDS victim, or to sneezes, coughs, saliva, tears, or sweat of a victim, will result in an infection, and that IN FACT NOBODY IS KNOWN TO HAVE CONTRACTED IT THAT WAY; that AIDS is a blood-borne disease ............ And from "Health Source" published by the Health Crisis Network of Miami: The main destructive effect of HIV is in its ability to select certain cells in the blood and tissues known as T4 lymphocytes, enter the target lymphocyte and modify itself so that when the lymphocyte divides itself, the HIV virus becomes part of each new division. This process continues to repeat itself until many, if not most, of the body's T lymphocytes are infected. Certain body fluids are very rich in lymphocytes, in particular, blood, semen, vaginal secretions of women and breast milk. Thus these fluids from a person infected with HIV are infectuous to others when they have an opportunity to GET INSIDE SKIN TO THE BLOODSTREAM. Other body fluids, such as tears, saliva and sweat have been able to grow HIV virus under laboratory conditions, but no case of AIDS has ever been reported as due to the transmission of these fluids. Here is a quote from the National Academy of Science's publication "Mobilizing Against AIDS": "HIV integrates itself into the genome of an infected cell. Before the discovery that the virus _replicates_ in cells in the brain, skin, colon, and cervix, as well as in T lymphocytes and macrophages, some researchers believed it might be possible to eradicate the disease by destroying all infected cells in the body. But this strategy no longer seems feasible. The most practical goal appears to be to supress viral replication and prevent the infection of healthy cells." The book also indicates that recent research findings support very long term periods of infection prior to indications of seroconversion because not all infected cells are capable of producing antibodies. Other tests must be used to determine infection by the virus. Detection of antibodies alone is just not accurate enough. And on heterosexual transmission it states: "Many of the early reports about homosexual and heterosexual transmission of HIV concluded with the speculation that transmission probably occurred when vrius in infected seminal fluid entered the bloodstream through small tears in the lining of the rectum or vagina. But recent evidence indicates that direct access to the bloodstream probably is not necessary for sexual transmission. The virus can infect local tissues in the rectum and the female reproductive tract."....... "The probable source of HIV infection in cervical secretions is infected cervical tissue. In March 1988, Roger Pomerantz of Massachusetts General Hospital and his colleagues reported that they isolated HIV from cervical specimens obtained from 4 seropositive women. The cells most often infected were monocyte/macrophages and endothelial cells." "In male-to-female transmission of HIV, contact with infected semen could lead to local infection of susceptible cervical cell; replication of the virus in those cells might precede systemic infection with HIV. Female-to-male transmission probably results from the sloughing of infected cervical cells into cervical and vaginal fluids." ..."Bird" -- Uucp: ...{gatech,ames,rutgers}!ncar!asuvax!stjhmc!135!38!The."Bird" Internet: The."Bird"@f38.n135.z1.fidonet.org