limonce@pilot.njin.net (Tom Limoncelli +1 201 408 5389) (05/26/91)
Massage oils and latex don't mix, right? (correct me here if I'm wrong)
So, are there any recommended replacements?
[I feel absolutely silly asking this question. Usually I'm the campus
guru that people come to with their safer sex questions but this one
was beyond my expertise. I'm just not into massage, how should I
know? :-)]
Tom
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Tom Limoncelli tlimonce@drew.edu tlimonce@drew.bitnet 201-408-5389
Would you support a law that prevented doctors from telling a
patient all available options? Reverse Rust vs. Sullivan!jayt@drbear.COM (Jay Tyson) (05/30/91)
limonce@pilot.njin.net (Tom Limoncelli +1 201 408 5389) writes: > Massage oils and latex don't mix, right? (correct me here if I'm wrong) > So, are there any recommended replacements? > > [I feel absolutely silly asking this question. Usually I'm the campus > guru that people come to with their safer sex questions but this one > was beyond my expertise. I'm just not into massage, how should I > know? :-)] > > Tom > -- My experiences have been that when using oils that are petroleum based break down rubber products. I have had condems break on a partner using baby oil. Engaging in like activities (specificly force, speed, etc....) did not break when using lubricants designed for sex. Oh, darn, I liked the baby oil. -- John "Jay" Tyson \ Drummer Bear Systems \ jayt@drbear.COM 1259 El Camino Real, #214 /\ ...!{decwrl|saxony}!drbear!jayt Menlo Park, CA 94025 / \ / \ I want to die... living!
rob@mtdiablo.Concord.CA.US (Rob Bernardo) (06/01/91)
jayt@drbear.COM (Jay Tyson) wrote: >limonce@pilot.njin.net (Tom Limoncelli +1 201 408 5389) writes: > >> Massage oils and latex don't mix, right? (correct me here if I'm wrong) >> So, are there any recommended replacements? >> >> [I feel absolutely silly asking this question. Usually I'm the campus >> guru that people come to with their safer sex questions but this one >> was beyond my expertise. I'm just not into massage, how should I >> know? :-)] >> >> Tom >> -- > >My experiences have been that when using oils that are >petroleum based break down rubber products. Gee, after being beaten to a dead horse state in motss recently, you'd think people (who read soc.motss) would get his right. *Any* oil-based substance is bad for latex. It doesn't have to be a petroleum derived oil to be bad for non-natural condoms. -- Rob Bernardo Mt. Diablo Software Solutions email: rob@mtdiablo.Concord.CA.US phone: (415) 827-4301
limonce@pilot.njin.net (Tom Limoncelli +1 201 408 5389) (06/03/91)
In article <1991Jun2.003233.18862@cs.ucla.edu> rob@mtdiablo.Concord.CA.US (Rob Bernardo) writes: > Gee, after being beaten to a dead horse state in motss recently, > you'd think people (who read soc.motss) would get his right. I'm from New Jersey, the only state that AIDS has never been a motss disease. That's besides the point, I don't read soc.motss becaue I don't have the time. ;-) > *Any* oil-based substance is bad for latex. It doesn't have to > be a petroleum derived oil to be bad for non-natural condoms. Right. As I said in my first post (the one that started all this): Are there any massage substances that are not oil based? -Tom -- Tom Limoncelli tlimonce@drew.edu tlimonce@drew.bitnet 201-408-5389 "People in tight pants, moving fast."
jay@banzai.PCC.COM (Jay Schuster) (06/04/91)
jayt@drbear.COM (Jay Tyson) writes: >limonce@pilot.njin.net (Tom Limoncelli +1 201 408 5389) writes: >> Massage oils and latex don't mix, right? (correct me here if I'm wrong) >> So, are there any recommended replacements? >My experiences have been that when using oils that are >petroleum based break down rubber products. A common misconception is that ONLY petroleum-based lubes break down rubber products. Truth is: ANY OIL-based lube will break down rubber products. This means not only baby oil, but also crisco, butter-flavored crisco, coconut oil (which is fabulous -- solid at room temp, liquid at skin temp), butter, suet, bacon fat, and vegetable oils. I can't say the number of times I've seen someone smear crisco on a rubber. I guess it's better than no rubber at all. And crisco is such an excellent lube :-(. If sunflower oil comes from sunflowers and corn oil from corn, where does baby oil come from? -- Jay Schuster <jay@pcc.COM> uunet!uvm-gen!banzai!jay, attmail!banzai!jay The People's Computer Company `Revolutionary Programming'
danj1@ihlpz.att.com (Daniel Jacobson) (06/10/91)
>>>>> "Jay" == Jay Schuster <jay@banzai.PCC.COM> writes:
Jay> Truth is: ANY OIL-based lube will break down rubber products.
Human skin is naturally oily, but not in dangerous amounts, I guess.rob@mtdiablo.Concord.CA.US (Rob Bernardo) (06/12/91)
Dan_Jacobson@ihlpz.ATT.COM wrote: >>>>>> "Jay" == Jay Schuster <jay@banzai.PCC.COM> writes: > >Jay> Truth is: ANY OIL-based lube will break down rubber products. > >Human skin is naturally oily, but not in dangerous amounts, I guess. My understanding is that the "oil" of human skin isn't oil at all. -- Rob Bernardo Mt. Diablo Software Solutions email: rob@mtdiablo.Concord.CA.US phone: (415) 827-4301