[comp.protocols.ibm] tn3270 for VMS systems

jd9014@cca.ucsf.edu (Joe DeBattista) (09/01/89)

Greetings,
   We currently have a MicroVax II (running MicroVMS 4.5, with an
Excelan card, running the EXOS TCP/IP software) and an IBM
mainframe (an IBM 4381, running VM/HPO 5.0, CMS, MVS/SP and the IBM
TCP/IP FAL code).  Our Unix machines communicate with the IBM on
our LAN ethernet via the tn3270 program, which permits a full-screen, 
full duplex connection, emulating an IBM 3270 terminal.  Is there 
such an animal for VMS systems?  I'm interested in both public domain
programs, and commercial products.  Thanks very much.
-- 
                            Joe DeBattista
                            UCSF Computer Center
                   BITNET:  jd9014@ucsfcca
                   DOMAIN:  jd9014@cca.ucsf.edu

jd9014@CCA.UCSF.EDU (Joe DeBattista) (09/01/89)

Greetings,
   We currently have a MicroVax II (running MicroVMS 4.5, with an
Excelan card, running the EXOS TCP/IP software) and an IBM
mainframe (an IBM 4381, running VM/HPO 5.0, CMS, MVS/SP and the IBM
TCP/IP FAL code).  Our Unix machines communicate with the IBM on
our LAN ethernet via the tn3270 program, which permits a full-screen,
full duplex connection, emulating an IBM 3270 terminal.  Is there
such an animal for VMS systems?  I'm interested in both public domain
programs, and commercial products.  Thanks very much.
--
                            Joe DeBattista
                            UCSF Computer Center
                   BITNET:  jd9014@ucsfcca
                   DOMAIN:  jd9014@cca.ucsf.edu

KLENSIN@INFOODS.MIT.EDU (John C Klensin) (09/02/89)

Joe,
  Welcome to the world of 'good product, no support'.  Basically,
the story is as follows:
 -> since there is no standard socket library for VMS, tn3270 and its
clones has to be adapted separately to each VMS TCP/IP implementation.
 -> Excelan has claimed that they were going to do this, but has been
silent on the subject for at least 18 months.  They have also claimed
that they were going to support a U**X-like socket library, but that is
making equal progress.  I presume they will actually do these things
right after they start supporting domain name resolution, straighten out
their routing mechanisms, stop going into mail loops whenever they get
header fields they don't like, send out proper mail error messages to
the right places, etc., etc.  In other words, don't hold your breath.
 -> We've started to convert a 3270 emulator to run with Excelan's
Telnet on several occasions, but have gotten sidetracked with more
critical tasks.  We also got hold of a socket library produced by a
private company, but it doesn't quite work and we promised to not give
it out, or to give out the name of the source, so it won't do you much
good.  I can give you our notes and (extremely limited) pre-library
partial work if you would like to have a go at it.
   Good luck.
  John Klensin, MIT
  Klensin@INFOODS.MIT.EDU
(Excelan's oldest Internet site.  and one of the most frustrated)