[comp.protocols.ibm] Dups in this group.

scw@ollie.SEAS.UCLA.EDU (12/22/89)

There seems to be a problem with duplicate articles, I see many articles
twice (about 40-60% actually).
Anyone have any Ideas?  Is it a problem at ucla-cs? Does anyone else see these?

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From ucla-cs!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!ames!ncar!boulder!ccncsu!ncr-fc!ncr-sd!ncrlnk!ncrcae!buzz Thu Dec 21 13:10:01 PST 1989
Article 1043 of comp.protocols.ibm:
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>From: buzz@ncrcae.Columbia.NCR.COM (Buzz Bonnett)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.ibm,ncr.sys.unix
Subject: Re: Interactive sessions between unix boxes on SNA network
Summary: Yes, it can be done!
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Date: 19 Dec 89 16:55:58 GMT
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From ucla-cs!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!ucbvax!ncrcae.UUCP!buzz Thu Dec 21 13:10:22 PST 1989
Article 1044 of comp.protocols.ibm:
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>From: buzz@ncrcae.UUCP (Buzz Bonnett)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.ibm
Subject: Re: Interactive sessions between unix boxes on SNA network
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Date: 19 Dec 89 16:55:58 GMT
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   The latest releases of VTAM (V3R2) and the NCP (V5R2 or V4R3) support
   [...]
   W. Columbia, SC 29169-2203
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Stephen C. Woods; UCLA SEASNET; 2567 BH;LA CA 90024; (213)-825-8614
UUCP: ...!{ibmsupt,hao!cepu}!ollie}!scw ARPA:scw@{Ollie.,}SEAS.UCLA.EDU 

moliver@pyrps5 (Mike Oliver) (12/22/89)

In article <30175@shemp.CS.UCLA.EDU> scw@ollie.SEAS.UCLA.EDU
 (Stephen C. Woods) writes:
>There seems to be a problem with duplicate articles, I see many articles
>twice (about 40-60% actually).

Much worse than that here, close to 100%.

>Anyone have any Ideas?  Is it a problem at ucla-cs?  Does anyone else see
> these?

As far as I can tell all of the duplicates have picked up a new
Message-ID at lilac.berkeley.edu, and once that happens they're brand
new messages as far as the news software is concerned.  So the problem
isn't at ucla-cs.

I've sent mail to postmaster@berkeley.edu asking them to look into it.

>Stephen C. Woods; UCLA SEASNET; 2567 BH;LA CA 90024; (213)-825-8614
>UUCP: ...!{ibmsupt,hao!cepu}!ollie}!scw ARPA:scw@{Ollie.,}SEAS.UCLA.EDU 

Mike Oliver.

moliver@pyramid.com
{allegra,decwrl,hplabs,munnari,sun,utai,uunet}!pyramid!moliver

moliver@pyramid.UUCP (Mike Oliver) (12/22/89)

In article <30175@shemp.CS.UCLA.EDU> scw@ollie.SEAS.UCLA.EDU
 (Stephen C. Woods) writes:
>There seems to be a problem with duplicate articles, I see many articles
>twice (about 40-60% actually).

Much worse than that here, close to 100%.

>Anyone have any Ideas?  Is it a problem at ucla-cs?  Does anyone else see
> these?

As far as I can tell all of the duplicates have picked up a new
Message-ID at lilac.berkeley.edu, and once that happens they're brand
new messages as far as the news software is concerned.  So the problem
isn't at ucla-cs.

I've sent mail to postmaster@berkeley.edu asking them to look into it.

>Stephen C. Woods; UCLA SEASNET; 2567 BH;LA CA 90024; (213)-825-8614
>UUCP: ...!{ibmsupt,hao!cepu}!ollie}!scw ARPA:scw@{Ollie.,}SEAS.UCLA.EDU

Mike Oliver.

moliver@pyramid.com
{allegra,decwrl,hplabs,munnari,sun,utai,uunet}!pyramid!moliver