scw@ollie.SEAS.UCLA.EDU (04/13/90)
In article <9004122105.AA19599@lilac.berkeley.edu> John C Klensin <KLENSIN@INFOODS.MIT.EDU> writes: >Stephen C. Woods writes: >> The problem is that the people who are most likley to have the skills >>wanted here (System/370) [...] into a lot of trouble whose symptoms will be >people being unable to reply to your mail, and is worth fixing, whatever >that takes: > > From: ucla-seas!scw%CS.UCLA.EDU@mitvma.mit.edu >It *is* one of the natural consequences of trying to source-route; what >probably happened here was that the bang-route "ucla-seas!scw@CS.UCLA.EDU" >arrived at the BITNET->Internet gateway "mitvma.mit.edu", which "fixed" it >into the form above, following the exact rules we have been discussing. >The problem is that there is no established precedence rule about ! and %, >so the above can be construed as (at least): > (i) ucla-seas!scw at CS.UCLA.EDU via mitvma.mit.edu (probably what was >intended) or as > (ii) scw%CS.UCLA.EDU at ucla-seas via mitvma.mit.edu Intrestingly enough I suspect that this UGLY (but workable) route was probably machine generated at the gateway between the the Usenet newsgroup 'comp.protocols.ibm' and the mail based equivalent. BTW I think that there are 2 gateways between this newsgroup and the mailing list as most messages appear to be duplicated in the newsgroup. My outgoing mail is addressed from either scw@ollie.seas.ucla.edu or scw@seas.ucla.edu (and very rarely scw@cs.ucla.edu) depending on where I sent it from. Here are the headers just as I send it. <scw> ----------- Path: scw From: scw@ollie.SEAS.UCLA.EDU Newsgroups: comp.protocols.ibm Subject: Strange mail paths (was e-mail and System/370 Systems Person) Summary: Expires: References: <9004122105.AA19599@lilac.berkeley.edu> Sender: Reply-To: scw@ollie.SEAS.UCLA.EDU (Stephen C. Woods) Followup-To: Distribution: Organization: UCLA School Of Engineering & Applied Science Keywords: ----- Stephen C. Woods; UCLA SEASNET; 2567 BH;LA CA 90024; (213)-825-8614 UUCP: ...!{ibmsupt,hao!cepu}!ollie}!scw ARPA:scw@{Ollie.,}SEAS.UCLA.EDU
scw@ucla-seas.UUCP (04/13/90)
In article <9004122105.AA19599@lilac.berkeley.edu> John C Klensin <KLENSIN@INFOODS.MIT.EDU> writes: >Stephen C. Woods writes: >> The problem is that the people who are most likley to have the skills >>wanted here (System/370) [...] into a lot of trouble whose symptoms will be >people being unable to reply to your mail, and is worth fixing, whatever >that takes: > > From: ucla-seas!scw%CS.UCLA.EDU@mitvma.mit.edu >It *is* one of the natural consequences of trying to source-route; what >probably happened here was that the bang-route "ucla-seas!scw@CS.UCLA.EDU" >arrived at the BITNET->Internet gateway "mitvma.mit.edu", which "fixed" it >into the form above, following the exact rules we have been discussing. >The problem is that there is no established precedence rule about ! and %, >so the above can be construed as (at least): > (i) ucla-seas!scw at CS.UCLA.EDU via mitvma.mit.edu (probably what was >intended) or as > (ii) scw%CS.UCLA.EDU at ucla-seas via mitvma.mit.edu Intrestingly enough I suspect that this UGLY (but workable) route was probably machine generated at the gateway between the the Usenet newsgroup 'comp.protocols.ibm' and the mail based equivalent. BTW I think that there are 2 gateways between this newsgroup and the mailing list as most messages appear to be duplicated in the newsgroup. My outgoing mail is addressed from either scw@ollie.seas.ucla.edu or scw@seas.ucla.edu (and very rarely scw@cs.ucla.edu) depending on where I sent it from. Here are the headers just as I send it. <scw> ----------- Path: scw From: scw@ollie.SEAS.UCLA.EDU Newsgroups: comp.protocols.ibm Subject: Strange mail paths (was e-mail and System/370 Systems Person) Summary: Expires: References: <9004122105.AA19599@lilac.berkeley.edu> Sender: Reply-To: scw@ollie.SEAS.UCLA.EDU (Stephen C. Woods) Followup-To: Distribution: Organization: UCLA School Of Engineering & Applied Science Keywords: ----- Stephen C. Woods; UCLA SEASNET; 2567 BH;LA CA 90024; (213)-825-8614 UUCP: ...!{ibmsupt,hao!cepu}!ollie}!scw ARPA:scw@{Ollie.,}SEAS.UCLA.EDU