allen@b11.ingr.com (John Allen) (05/30/90)
I have previously asked about TCP/IP vis the 8232 channel to Ethernet gateway from IBM. Concensus is that it works fine for telnet, FTP etc.. But, Does anyone know if you can talk to a 370 class system via T-R and TCP/IP (not SNA) through either a 3745 or local 3174 TIC adapter? If so how?? -- * /- _______ ingr.b23b!allen!jallen@uunet.uu.net * * */ | V | John E. Allen * * |^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^| (205) 730-8627 * * |---------------------| Analog forever, skip..forever, skip.. *
allen@b11.UUCP (John Allen) (05/30/90)
I have previously asked about TCP/IP vis the 8232 channel to Ethernet gateway from IBM. Concensus is that it works fine for telnet, FTP etc.. But, Does anyone know if you can talk to a 370 class system via T-R and TCP/IP (not SNA) through either a 3745 or local 3174 TIC adapter? If so how?? -- * /- _______ ingr.b23b!allen!jallen@uunet.uu.net * * */ | V | John E. Allen * * |^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^| (205) 730-8627 * * |---------------------| Analog forever, skip..forever, skip.. *
shair@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Bob Shair) (05/30/90)
allen@b11.UUCP (John Allen) writes: >I have previously asked about TCP/IP vis the 8232 channel to Ethernet >gateway from IBM. Concensus is that it works fine for telnet, FTP >etc.. >But, Does anyone know if you can talk to a 370 class system via >T-R and TCP/IP (not SNA) through either a 3745 or local 3174 TIC >adapter? If so how?? The short answer is no, you can't run TCP/IP to a T-R through either a 3745 or a 3174. The long answer is probably the same, after a lot of fancy systems design work and programming. Neither the 3174 nor the 3745 is especially programmable, at least with released tools. As I see it, it's a problem in control unit programming. Bob Shair Scientific Computing Specialist IBM Champaign Disclaimers: I am not affiliated with the University of Illinois I don't really know anything about anything... just make up answers.
shair@UX1.CSO.UIUC.EDU (Bob Shair) (05/30/90)
allen@b11.UUCP (John Allen) writes: >I have previously asked about TCP/IP vis the 8232 channel to Ethernet >gateway from IBM. Concensus is that it works fine for telnet, FTP >etc.. >But, Does anyone know if you can talk to a 370 class system via >T-R and TCP/IP (not SNA) through either a 3745 or local 3174 TIC >adapter? If so how?? The short answer is no, you can't run TCP/IP to a T-R through either a 3745 or a 3174. The long answer is probably the same, after a lot of fancy systems design work and programming. Neither the 3174 nor the 3745 is especially programmable, at least with released tools. As I see it, it's a problem in control unit programming. Bob Shair Scientific Computing Specialist IBM Champaign Disclaimers: I am not affiliated with the University of Illinois I don't really know anything about anything... just make up answers.
SNSTR@TTUVM1.BITNET (Steve Strickland) (05/30/90)
>But, Does anyone know if you can talk to a 370 class system via >T-R and TCP/IP (not SNA) through either a 3745 or local 3174 TIC >adapter? If so how?? > Can't be done right now. I think comten advertized a FEP that would do this. Strick
pjj@ntrlink.UUCP (Patrick Johnston) (06/01/90)
In article <9005301446.AA25457@lilac.berkeley.edu> Steve Strickland <SNSTR%TTUVM1.bitnet@lilac.berkeley.edu> writes: >>But, Does anyone know if you can talk to a 370 class system via >>T-R and TCP/IP (not SNA) through either a 3745 or local 3174 TIC >>adapter? If so how?? >> >Can't be done right now. I think comten advertized a FEP that would >do this. >Strick COMTEN has a front end that can talk TCP/IP, but this is a replacemnt for the 3745, not an addition to it. The only way IBM provides for TCP/IP connections to mainframe are: 1. Channel attached 8232 with Token ring adapter. 2. Channel attached 3172 (faster replacement for the 8232) 3. 9370 using a Token Ring adapter (VM only) IBM did just recently announce an RPQ for the the 3174 TIC adapter that will allow a PC connected to the 3174 via coax run a limited version of their LAN support program. The data is routed from a PC server on the TokenRing, through the TIC on the 3174, through the COAX to a client PC that has an IBM 3270 Coax adapter. While this does not pertain to your original question. It does show that IBM is cabable of putting more options and inteligence into the 3174. (there is even a 3174 model that comes with a 20 meg hard drive! go figure??). I think that IBM will announce many more options for the 3174 in the future. COMTEN may force them to announce sooner than they would like! Patrick Johnston D
pjj@ntrlink.interlink.com (Patrick Johnston) (06/01/90)
In article <9005301446.AA25457@lilac.berkeley.edu> Steve Strickland <SNSTR%TTUVM1.bitnet@lilac.berkeley.edu> writes: >>But, Does anyone know if you can talk to a 370 class system via >>T-R and TCP/IP (not SNA) through either a 3745 or local 3174 TIC >>adapter? If so how?? >> >Can't be done right now. I think comten advertized a FEP that would >do this. >Strick COMTEN has a front end that can talk TCP/IP, but this is a replacemnt for the 3745, not an addition to it. The only way IBM provides for TCP/IP connections to mainframe are: 1. Channel attached 8232 with Token ring adapter. 2. Channel attached 3172 (faster replacement for the 8232) 3. 9370 using a Token Ring adapter (VM only) IBM did just recently announce an RPQ for the the 3174 TIC adapter that will allow a PC connected to the 3174 via coax run a limited version of their LAN support program. The data is routed from a PC server on the TokenRing, through the TIC on the 3174, through the COAX to a client PC that has an IBM 3270 Coax adapter. While this does not pertain to your original question. It does show that IBM is cabable of putting more options and inteligence into the 3174. (there is even a 3174 model that comes with a 20 meg hard drive! go figure??). I think that IBM will announce many more options for the 3174 in the future. COMTEN may force them to announce sooner than they would like! Patrick Johnston D