[comp.protocols.ibm] Interactive connection from an IBM PC to an IBM 3090 running

corr@lehi3b15.UUCP (Chris Orr) (07/24/90)

Hello all!  I am trying to define an environment which will allow our IBM
3090 machine to talk to a number of other hosts.  Among these other hosts
are S/38, AS400, HP 925, DEC VAX 8600, etc.

The thought is to use a PC as a go-between.  This will allow us to develop
a connection from the IBM 3090 to the PC (possibly using an LU 6.2
connection) that is standard for all hosts that want to talk to us.  Then
all that is needed is to develop software that runs on that same PC to
connect to the other host.  This obviously would be host dependant.  We
would like to have the other host's application programmers code this
connection (see diagram's TRAN 3 and TRAN 4).

So, the question is what is the environment/hardware/software that should
be used on this PC.

It has been suggested by IBM to use OS/2 and CICS for OS/2.  Is this the best
solution?  What other possible architectures are available ????




                                            Part to be
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                                                               APPLICATION
                 MAINFRAME (IBM 3090)                          PROCESSOR
  USER            __________________           PC             _________________
_________ TRAN 1  |                | TRAN 2 __________ TRAN 3 |               |
|       |_____    |   __________   |    ___\|        |____    |   ________    |
|       |    /____|__\|        |___|____\  /|        |   /____|__\|      |    |
|       |         |  /|  RELAY |   |        |        |        |  /| APPL |    |
|       |/____    |   |        |   |     ___|        |/____   |   |      |    |
|       |\   /____|__ |   PGM  |___|/____\  |        |\   /___|__ |  PGM |    |
|_______|         |   |________|   |\       |________|        |   |______|    |
          TRAN 6  |                | TRAN 5            TRAN 4 |               |
                  |________________|                          |_______________|
                                       /\               /\
                                       ||               ||
                                       ||               ||
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                                    LU 6.2 ????         ||
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                                                       User
                                                 Defined/Dependant

mal@itivax.UUCP (Mark Law) (07/26/90)

In article <1023@lehi3b15.csee.Lehigh.EDU> corr@lehi3b15.csee.Lehigh.EDU (Chris
        Orr) writes:
>Hello all!  I am trying to define an environment which will allow our IBM
>3090 machine to talk to a number of other hosts.  Among these other hosts
>are S/38, AS400, HP 925, DEC VAX 8600, etc.
>
We are currently implementing a scheme similar to the one you propose.  We
have a 3090-300E that is being gatewayed via an IBM 8232 industrial PC.  The
industrial PC is really an AT bus machine modified such that it speaks SNA
on the channel side, and Ethernet via an Ungerman-Bass card on the other
side.  Hanging off of the Ethernet are various VAX, HP and Sun machines.
Serveral applications are currently being developed using LU6.2 to one of
the DEC machines running DECnet.  In installation of FAL-FTP from IBM is
currently also underway, to allow greater access for our 3270 users to general
network services.  Ask your SE about the IBM 8232.
--
Mark A. Law                         mal@itivax.iti.org
Network Engineer                    University of Michigan Hospitals

schafer@devils.rice.edu (Richard A. Schafer) (07/26/90)

In article <9007260234.AA20966@lilac.berkeley.edu>, mal@itivax.UUCP
(Mark Law) writes:
> In article <1023@lehi3b15.csee.Lehigh.EDU>
corr@lehi3b15.csee.Lehigh.EDU (Chris
>         Orr) writes:
> >Hello all!  I am trying to define an environment which will allow our IBM
> >3090 machine to talk to a number of other hosts.  Among these other hosts
> >are S/38, AS400, HP 925, DEC VAX 8600, etc.

... some lines deleted
> ...  Ask your SE about the IBM 8232.
And if you're lucky, he'll have heard of it.  Or maybe I should
say, if you're unlucky, since the 8232 is certainly one of the
slower devices available for doing this.  (Even IBM has admitted
that the performance of the 8232 reeks, and is bringing out the
3172 as a replacement with better performance.)  To add insult
to injury, the 8232 is about 4 times as expensive as the BTI ELC
which is easily the best and fastest device on the market today.

I urge you to contact Bus-Tech Inc.
                      131 Middlesex Turnpike
                      Burlington, MA 01803
		      (617) 272-8200

for information.

schafer@DEVILS.RICE.EDU ("Richard A. Schafer") (07/26/90)

In article <9007260234.AA20966@lilac.berkeley.edu>, mal@itivax.UUCP
(Mark Law) writes:
> In article <1023@lehi3b15.csee.Lehigh.EDU>
corr@lehi3b15.csee.Lehigh.EDU (Chris
>         Orr) writes:
> >Hello all!  I am trying to define an environment which will allow our IBM
> >3090 machine to talk to a number of other hosts.  Among these other hosts
> >are S/38, AS400, HP 925, DEC VAX 8600, etc.

... some lines deleted
> ...  Ask your SE about the IBM 8232.
And if you're lucky, he'll have heard of it.  Or maybe I should
say, if you're unlucky, since the 8232 is certainly one of the
slower devices available for doing this.  (Even IBM has admitted
that the performance of the 8232 reeks, and is bringing out the
3172 as a replacement with better performance.)  To add insult
to injury, the 8232 is about 4 times as expensive as the BTI ELC
which is easily the best and fastest device on the market today.

I urge you to contact Bus-Tech Inc.
                      131 Middlesex Turnpike
                      Burlington, MA 01803
                      (617) 272-8200

for information.