xxbja@csduts1.lerc.nasa.gov (Betty Jo Armstead) (02/21/91)
Following is a list of comments I received on my post about multi-threading with RPC. Most of the mail was requests on how to get John Corbin's book, so I am including that information. I would still like to hear from anyone who has done RPC servers that are using IBM's TCP/IP - RPC softwear. In particular I am interested in multi-threaded servers. It also seems to me there may be enough interest in RPC programming to start a group, but I'm not sure I want to tackle that process at this time. Here is the summary >From jfjr@mbunix.mitre.org Wed Feb 13 12:29:29 1991 Organization: The MITRE Corp., Bedford MA Cc: If you can get a hold of the source for rexd which comes with NFS (implements "on" command) that is a tcp/ip multi-threaded RPC. Its not very well done nor used very much but I believe there are PD versions of it. We used it at Bull to connect up to IBM SNA servers. Jerry Freedman,Jr From: pttrtl!ketelaar@relay.EU.net (Arjen Ketelaar (next)) Message-Id: <9102141353.AA03048@pttrtl> To: xxbja@csduts1.lerc.nasa.gov Subject: RPC application programming I'm also interested in RPC application programming. In general I'm interested in developping distributed applications. Do you know wich newsgroup is the most suitable suitable for discussions about this topic? I have found no spcial group on this topic. Greeting from Arjen Ketelaar PTT Research P.O. Box 15000 9700 CD Groningen The Netherlands Fax: +31-50122415 Email: ketelaar@pttrtl.uucp >From swank@bodwin.ifs.umich.edu Sun Feb 17 17:00:41 1991 Subject: RPC programming... Hello Betty, most recently, I noticed your posting on the network concerning RPC's... Have you been able to obtain the relevant information which you we're seeking? I am currently, interested in solving CFD on an IBM CMS server via RPC's; so, if you should come across any helpful info please kindly respond... thanks in advance Thomas Ragland The Univ. Of Michigan Ann Arbor, Michigan email: swank@dip.eecs.umich.edu swank@dip.eecs.umich.edu >From @CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU:TAYBENGH@NUSDISCS.BITNET Tue Feb 19 08:20:17 1991 X-Original-To: xxbja@csduts1.lerc.nasa.gov, TAYBENGH Hi, I think mutil-threaded RPC is possible only if the RPC package u are using supports multi-threads (light-weight processes) in single process. If that is the case, u can create multi-threads in a single server process to serve multiple data streams (TCP connections). If your OS nor RPC support multi-threads, then the solution is depending on the implementation of the RPC package. Please give more information to the net of what is the RPC packages that u are using such as Sun RPC, HP/Apollo NCS/RPC or Netwise RPC. Hope this helps. >From Fitch.Catwalk@DOCKMASTER.NCSC.MIL Tue Feb 19 09:16:42 1991 If you receive any multithreaded examples for MVS/TCP, I'd also be interested. You may want to explore using MTF (multitasking facilities) in C on MVS. You can't do fork like UNIX, but it does support some parallelism. It looks like your parallel functions have to be re-entrant. You'll also have to be careful about sharing descriptors between tasks. The mother task should control things but so far I haven't seen a good way to do async notifications between tasks so that the parent can know that the child has completed. Ignoring MVS, you may want to look at a Sun Unix Networking manual. The rpcgen utility gives you a lot of code for free (not multithreaded though). There are also examples and specifications for XDR etc --Jack Here is the publisher of the book by John Corbin. TITLE: The Art of Distributed Applications Programming Techniques for Remote Procedure Calls AUTHOR: John R. Corbin SUBJECT: Distributed application programming using RPC PUBLISHER: Springer-Verlag (Part of Sun Techincal Reference Library) 175 - Fifth Ave. Ny, NY 10010, USA DATE: 1991 COPYRIGHT: Sun Microsystems Inc. PAGES: 558 ISBN: 0-387-97247-1 ISBN: 3-540-97247-1 APPROX_COST: 39.95 SUGGESTED_BY: "Betty Jo Armstead, Sverdrup" <xxbja@csduts1.lerc.nasa.gov> COMMENTS An excellent book for anyone starting to develop RPC applications.his The book covers SUN style RPC programming with lots of examples. the It covers XDR, RPC Protocol, RPC programming, Low-level RPC Programming, Additional RPC Library Features, RPCGEN, Developing RPC-based Distributed Applications and the future of RPC programming. The books also hints at multithreaded RPC applications, but provides no examples and very little discussion on this topic. Betty Jo armstead -- Betty Jo Armstead SVERDRUP Technology Inc. 21000 Brookpark Rd.Ms 142-2 Nasa Lewis Research Center Cleveland Ohio 44135 From: xxbja@csduts1.lerc.nasa.gov
xxbja@CSDUTS1.LERC.NASA.GOV (Betty Jo Armstead) (02/21/91)
Following is a list of comments I received on my post about multi-threading with RPC. Most of the mail was requests on how to get John Corbin's book, so I am including that information. I would still like to hear from anyone who has done RPC servers that are using IBM's TCP/IP - RPC softwear. In particular I am interested in multi-threaded servers. It also seems to me there may be enough interest in RPC programming to start a group, but I'm not sure I want to tackle that process at this time. Here is the summary >From jfjr@mbunix.mitre.org Wed Feb 13 12:29:29 1991 Organization: The MITRE Corp., Bedford MA Cc: If you can get a hold of the source for rexd which comes with NFS (implements "on" command) that is a tcp/ip multi-threaded RPC. Its not very well done nor used very much but I believe there are PD versions of it. We used it at Bull to connect up to IBM SNA servers. Jerry Freedman,Jr From: pttrtl!ketelaar@relay.EU.net (Arjen Ketelaar (next)) Message-Id: <9102141353.AA03048@pttrtl> To: xxbja@csduts1.lerc.nasa.gov Subject: RPC application programming I'm also interested in RPC application programming. In general I'm interested in developping distributed applications. Do you know wich newsgroup is the most suitable suitable for discussions about this topic? I have found no spcial group on this topic. Greeting from Arjen Ketelaar PTT Research P.O. Box 15000 9700 CD Groningen The Netherlands Fax: +31-50122415 Email: ketelaar@pttrtl.uucp >From swank@bodwin.ifs.umich.edu Sun Feb 17 17:00:41 1991 Subject: RPC programming... Hello Betty, most recently, I noticed your posting on the network concerning RPC's... Have you been able to obtain the relevant information which you we're seeking? I am currently, interested in solving CFD on an IBM CMS server via RPC's; so, if you should come across any helpful info please kindly respond... thanks in advance Thomas Ragland The Univ. Of Michigan Ann Arbor, Michigan email: swank@dip.eecs.umich.edu swank@dip.eecs.umich.edu >From @CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU:TAYBENGH@NUSDISCS.BITNET Tue Feb 19 08:20:17 1991 X-Original-To: xxbja@csduts1.lerc.nasa.gov, TAYBENGH Hi, I think mutil-threaded RPC is possible only if the RPC package u are using supports multi-threads (light-weight processes) in single process. If that is the case, u can create multi-threads in a single server process to serve multiple data streams (TCP connections). If your OS nor RPC support multi-threads, then the solution is depending on the implementation of the RPC package. Please give more information to the net of what is the RPC packages that u are using such as Sun RPC, HP/Apollo NCS/RPC or Netwise RPC. Hope this helps. >From Fitch.Catwalk@DOCKMASTER.NCSC.MIL Tue Feb 19 09:16:42 1991 If you receive any multithreaded examples for MVS/TCP, I'd also be interested. You may want to explore using MTF (multitasking facilities) in C on MVS. You can't do fork like UNIX, but it does support some parallelism. It looks like your parallel functions have to be re-entrant. You'll also have to be careful about sharing descriptors between tasks. The mother task should control things but so far I haven't seen a good way to do async notifications between tasks so that the parent can know that the child has completed. Ignoring MVS, you may want to look at a Sun Unix Networking manual. The rpcgen utility gives you a lot of code for free (not multithreaded though). There are also examples and specifications for XDR etc --Jack Here is the publisher of the book by John Corbin. TITLE: The Art of Distributed Applications Programming Techniques for Remote Procedure Calls AUTHOR: John R. Corbin SUBJECT: Distributed application programming using RPC PUBLISHER: Springer-Verlag (Part of Sun Techincal Reference Library) 175 - Fifth Ave. Ny, NY 10010, USA DATE: 1991 COPYRIGHT: Sun Microsystems Inc. PAGES: 558 ISBN: 0-387-97247-1 ISBN: 3-540-97247-1 APPROX_COST: 39.95 SUGGESTED_BY: "Betty Jo Armstead, Sverdrup" <xxbja@csduts1.lerc.nasa.gov> COMMENTS An excellent book for anyone starting to develop RPC applications.his The book covers SUN style RPC programming with lots of examples. the It covers XDR, RPC Protocol, RPC programming, Low-level RPC Programming, Additional RPC Library Features, RPCGEN, Developing RPC-based Distributed Applications and the future of RPC programming. The books also hints at multithreaded RPC applications, but provides no examples and very little discussion on this topic. Betty Jo armstead -- Betty Jo Armstead SVERDRUP Technology Inc. 21000 Brookpark Rd.Ms 142-2 Nasa Lewis Research Center Cleveland Ohio 44135 From: xxbja@csduts1.lerc.nasa.gov