awr@tybalt.caltech.edu (Bruce Rossiter) (01/27/88)
len@csd4.milw.wisc.edu (Leonard P Levine) writes: >relkins@vax1.acs.udel.EDU (Rob Elkins) writes: >>Has anyone had any success downloading the moria.arc file from simtel20.arpa >>in the pd1:<msdos.games> directory? We can't unarc it once we get it, as >>the archive seems to be corrupted. I am using an 8 bit transfer in ftp. > >I am having the same problem with a unix system here with any of the arc'd >material. My local wizards do not understand the problem. Any help? "An" 8 bit transfer. Which one? Tenex or Binary? What kind of machine are you using? The following info is taken from SIMTEL-ARCHIVES.INFO - a file *everyone* using simtel20 should read. If this doesn't help, send me mail and I'll try to help you further. I transferred the moria files with no problems..... ---------------------------Begin included text---------------------------- FILE TYPES [....] All binary data are stored as four 8-bit bytes per 36-bit SIMTEL20 word, with the low-order four bits of each word filled with zeros. If such a file is interpreted as a contiguous string, as will happen if a straight binary transfer is made to a 16 or 32-bit UNIX machine, the four zero filler- bits per 36-bit group will cause rather bizarre and frustrating results. FILE TRANSFER VIA FTP [....] Users of TOPS-10, TENEX, TOPS-20 or ITS systems can use "image" or "paged" mode for ALL transfers. UNIX users must use "ascii" mode for ASCII files, and "type tenex" or "type L 8" mode for binary files. ----------------------------End included text----------------------------- If you are on a MULTICS system, this file also contains a lengthy example on how to transfer binary files. -Bruce -------- "Look out the left, the captain said :: awr@tybalt.caltech.edu The lights down there, that's where we'll land. :: bruce@caltech.BITNET I saw a falling star burn up :: {amdahl,rutgers}!cit-vax! Above the Las Vegas sands." - Joni Mitchell :: tybalt.caltech.edu!awr
dsrich@engr.uky.edu (Dave Richardson) (01/28/88)
In article <4359@uwmcsd1.UUCP> len@csd4.milw.wisc.edu (Leonard P Levine) writes: >In article <600@udccvax1.acs.udel.EDU> relkins@vax1.acs.udel.EDU (Rob Elkins) writes: >>Has anyone had any success downloading the moria.arc file from simtel20.arpa >I am having the same problem with a unix system here with any of the arc'd >material. My local wizards do not understand the problem. Any help? Are you all using "tenex" mode for download? I've had to use that for simtel20. Binary mode gives me garbage. "TYPE L 8" is the command to simtel20. I realize that that is 8 bit, but is it the same? (Wizard I ain't.) Dave f i l l e r -- Dave Richardson ARPANET: dsrich@engr.uky.edu CSNET: dsrich@engr.uky.csnet UUCP: !{rutgers, uunet, cbosgd}!ukma!ukecc!dsrich
steven@uicsgva.UUCP (01/28/88)
I'm not sure what you mean by 'eight bit.' SIMTEL20 I think is a TOPS-20 DEC something or other which uses 36 bit words. (anybody else know?) What I do know is that you need to type 'tenex' before dowloading.
dow@wjh12.harvard.edu (Dominik Wujastyk) (01/30/88)
After reading the message about Simtel20's Moria being corrupted, I FTPed it (using tenex), Kermited it from my Vax to my Compaq AT, and unARCed it. It ran perfectly, no hitches. So, as the recent Re: Moria" messages have been suggesting, the problem lies in using the correct transfer protocols. The Moria files themselves are absolutely fine. Dominik Wujastyk -- bitnet: user DOW on the bitnet node HARVUNXW arpanet: dow@wjh12.harvard.edu csnet: dow@wjh12.harvard.edu uucp: ...!ihnp4!wjh12!dow
w8sdz@eddie.MIT.EDU (Keith Petersen) (02/01/88)
You MUST use the tenex mode (same as TYPE L 8) when FTPing binary(8) files from SIMTEL20. This sorts out the differences in word size between hosts. SIMTEL20 is a 36-bit machine.
kevinc@auvax.UUCP (Kevin Barry Crocker) (02/03/88)
In article <8021@eddie.MIT.EDU>, w8sdz@eddie.MIT.EDU (Keith Petersen) writes: > You MUST use the tenex mode (same as TYPE L 8) when FTPing binary(8) > files from SIMTEL20. This sorts out the differences in word size between > hosts. SIMTEL20 is a 36-bit machine. All this talk of how to access simtel and moria is great BUT I do not have a modem on my machine and access news ;through our vax 785. Yes, we do have modem capabilities on the vax BUT they have been withdrawn from lowly users like myself I would dearly like to get the pc-moria source. email me with helpful hints or constructive suggestions please. ihnp4!alberta!auvax!kevinc (Kevin Crocker Athabasca University) Do our employers have opinions or is that what we get paid for!