ccs013@castor.ucdavis.edu (Jason) (05/12/89)
After all that explaining, I cannot understand why all of you persist on commenting on the fact that I believe that I am some wonderful engineer or wonderful programmer ... or wonderful anything for that matter. What I did say was that many of the engineers I know (I did not say all, or all the engineers in the world ..etc..) have a real attitude problem. They put down other majors all the time. I'll remind you that this info is from people whom I know fairly well, I am not talking about acquaintances. For the original posting that started all this, I do not even know the writer. However, I do not need to. He falls right into the above category without question. What right does he have to flame people who are other than engineers? The same opposite restrictions apply to me. I gave fact, not flame. Yes, I will admit I was colorful at times ( i.e. "money craving robots" ) ; but for that I apologize. Yes it was un-called for. Again I ask, if you are so interested in people making false claims, why don't you talk to the author of the original posting. Will you agree with him that CS people cannot support another's software? Will you agree with him that CS people (this is as opposed to ECS of software-engineers) cannot debug? All I ever said about the competence of an ECS (at other schools I have been to besides UCD), is the curricula contains far less actual comp.sci. that pure CS . I also noted that many of the engineers I knew (and I will say to a greater extent in other Eng. departments than ECS) had more interest in money that science. I really do apologize if I have hurt anyone or caused them any strife with me. I did not mean to. I still cannot understand why the author of the original posting got away barely with out a scrape. He made some actual flames of a CS's competence . Any flaming I did of anyone's competence was of an undergrad CS as compared to an undergrad ECS. I have not claimed to know more that an undergrad because i am not a grad. And to know who is pompus and arrogant and who is not does not take a wonderful knowledge of computer science. If you feel that you do not put other majors down, nor relish in your own greatness, well then the postings were not describing you. They were describing the author of the original posting and others like him. My apologies are extended to those un-like him. Jason jygabler@ucdavis