siping@cathedral.cerc.wvu.wvnet.edu (Siping Liu) (10/16/90)
Someone told me that there exists some tool(s) on UNIX which supports software development in group and the functionality is at a level higher than SCCS. Can someone tell me what it is? Thanks in advance. siping@cerc.wvu.wvnet.edu
carpente@corinth.uucp (Michael A. Carpenter OSBU North) (10/16/90)
In article <883@babcock.cerc.wvu.wvnet.edu> siping@cathedral.cerc.wvu.wvnet.edu (Siping Liu) writes: >Someone told me that there exists some tool(s) on UNIX which supports >software development in group and the functionality is at >a level higher than SCCS. Can someone tell me what it is? I'm posting rather than e-mailing because I want to make a follow on question. A few years ago, Sun was touting the creation of NSE - Network Software Environment, or some such. In fact, I remember reading an article (I think in SunTechnology mag) about what a great team they had and what a NEAT thing this was and how it was going to revolutionize software development, etc. (ad nauseum). I would think the answer to the above question should be something like NSE. My follow on question is: Where the heck is it and is anyone really using it???? Just curious...
slw@sprite.icd.ab.com (Shoshana L. Wodzisz) (10/16/90)
These types of tools are generally known as "Configuration
Management" tools. NSE is an integrated environment which SUN
has come out with to graphically aid you in managing your software.
We evaluated it and many many other packages. None seemed to
fit what we wanted (some even core dumped), so we're writing our
own on top of SCCS.
BTW - the main reason we vetoed NSE was because it ran on SUNs *ONLY* !
We didn't want this restriction imposed upon us.
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------runyan@hpcuhc.cup.hp.com (Mark Runyan) (10/17/90)
>/ siping@cathedral.cerc.wvu.wvnet.edu (Siping Liu) / 10:06 am Oct 15, 1990 / >Someone told me that there exists some tool(s) on UNIX which supports >software development in group and the functionality is at >a level higher than SCCS. Can someone tell me what it is? Your question is sort of open ended, so I'm going to make some rash assumptions and let you (and others) correct me as I go... SPMS - Software Project Management System This tool sent is part of the 'contributed' software from the Berkley releases. It is suppose to assist project teams in developing code for projects. (No recommendations as I've not used it). DSEE - Domain Software Engineering Environment This tool package takes care of virtually any software configuration management problem you might face. Unfortunately, it only runs on Apollo systems (at present). (Highly recommended if you have Apollo machines). Synchronize (from Crosswinds Technology, Inc) This tool is an X-oriented calendar program that helps your project team to schedule appointments for meetings and group related events. It doesn't do anything for software configuration, but if you have to work in a large group, this tool is a definite plus for scheduling those inevitable meetings. (Highly recommended if you are an X user) Amplify (from CaseWare, Inc) This is an X-orented software configuration system. It appears to be customizable and very graphic oriented. (No recommendations as I've not used it). Aide-De-Camp (from Software Maintenance & Development Systems) This is a software configuration management system. (No recommendations or in depth information since I haven't had a chance to review it) Configuration Management Facility (from Expertware, Inc) This is a software configuration management system. (No recommendations or in depth information since I haven't had a chance to review it) Software through Pictures/SA (from Interactive Development Environments) This is a graphical Structured Analysis tool that allows project teams to work together in the analysis and design of a project. It is suppose to have an interface to SCCS for version control. It appears to require an X-system. (No recommendations as I haven't used it) These are just a few of the systems that I'm aware of. I'm sure others can (and should) be added to this list, and more information can probably be added to each of the summaries. Mark Runyan
dmb@ns.network.com (Duane M. Butler) (10/17/90)
In article <569@roo.UUCP> carpente@corinth.UUCP (Michael A. Carpenter OSBU North) writes: >... >A few years ago, Sun was touting the creation of NSE - Network Software >Environment, or some such. In fact, I remember reading an article (I >think in SunTechnology mag) about what a great team they had and what >a NEAT thing this was and how it was going to revolutionize software >development, etc. (ad nauseum). > >I would think the answer to the above question should be something >like NSE. My follow on question is: Where the heck is it and is >anyone really using it???? > >Just curious... NSE - Network Software Environment We have been using NSE for some time now on a project involving multiple programmers. I first heard of NSE through reading a Sun technical report, and got so excited I convinced management we should buy it. Let me say that NSE is the *best* programming enviromnent I've ever seen. Version control is just a small part of what it does. The best part of NSE is that is does almost all of its magic behind the scenes. For the most part, working under NSE environment is just like not working under NSE. For us, it solves *real* problems that occur in our multi-programmer environment. I'm sorry I can't go into real detail about NSE; I haven't found a good way to describe it in few words. I would suggest anyone interested to contact a local Sun rep. and ask for the NSE Technical Report. The report does an excellent job of describing the NSE, and from our experience, NSE delievers on everything described in the report. Keep in mind that I have no relationship to Sun, except as a satisified customer. duane.
daigle@apollo.HP.COM (Joe Daigle) (10/18/90)
In article <569@roo.UUCP>, carpente@corinth.uucp (Michael A. Carpenter OSBU North) writes: |> In article <883@babcock.cerc.wvu.wvnet.edu> siping@cathedral.cerc.wvu.wvnet.edu (Siping Liu) writes: |> >Someone told me that there exists some tool(s) on UNIX which supports |> >software development in group and the functionality is at |> >a level higher than SCCS. Can someone tell me what it is? |> |> I'm posting rather than e-mailing because I want to make a follow on |> question. |> |> A few years ago, Sun was touting the creation of NSE - Network Software |> Environment, or some such. In fact, I remember reading an article (I |> think in SunTechnology mag) about what a great team they had and what |> a NEAT thing this was and how it was going to revolutionize software |> development, etc. (ad nauseum). |> |> I would think the answer to the above question should be something |> like NSE. My follow on question is: Where the heck is it and is |> anyone really using it???? |> |> Just curious... I cannot speak for NSE, but you may want to consider DSEE from HP/Apollo. If you are interested, then contact me and I will put you in touch with our marketing organization for Apollo CASE. Joseph W. Daigle DSEE Project Team Computer Aided Software Engineering Apollo Computer A Subsidiary of Hewlett-Packard MS CHD-02-CS 508/256-6600 x4227 250 Apollo Drive EMail: daigle@apollo.hp.com Chelmsford, MA 01824 HP TN: 256-4227 "Don't blame me, I didn't name it 'dizzy'"
stu@gtisqr.uucp (Stu Donaldson) (10/25/90)
>/ siping@cathedral.cerc.wvu.wvnet.edu (Siping Liu) / 10:06 am Oct 15, 1990 / >Someone told me that there exists some tool(s) on UNIX which supports >software development in group and the functionality is at >a level higher than SCCS. Can someone tell me what it is? We began using CVS on top of RCS early this year. It is available from the comp.sources.misc (.unix?) archives. I recommend it for supporting version control in a group environment on large projects. It allows each person to checkout a writeable copy of the entire system, and has support tools for merging in conflicting changes. (no flames please) Anyway, Brian Berliner did a great job of designing this system. I recall it was originally used by a software team to maintain the source to a Unix system. --- Stu Donaldson UUCP: {smart-host}!gtisqr!stu Maverick Microsystems ARPA: gtisqr!stu@yang.cpac.washington.edu Mukilteo, Washington Bell: (206) 743-6659
mo@clsib21.UUCP (Maurice O'Donnell) (10/25/90)
>We began using CVS on top of RCS early this year. It is available >from the comp.sources.misc (.unix?) archives. > deleted stuff goes here >--- >Stu Donaldson UUCP: {smart-host}!gtisqr!stu >Maverick Microsystems ARPA: gtisqr!stu@yang.cpac.washington.edu >Mukilteo, Washington Bell: (206) 743-6659 would someone supply the address of a site that i could mail/ftp cvs from. thanks, (in advance) mo -- uucp---------> {...}bbn!clsib21!mo \/ Maurice O'Donnell internet-> mo%clsib21.uucp@bbn.com /\ CLSI, Inc \/ 320 Nevada Street voice---> (617) 965-6310 ext. 294 /\ Newtonville, MA 02160