pete@relay.nixctc.de (Pete Delaney) (04/15/89)
Come on guys, where is the Followup to Joachim Carlo Santos Martillo's paper " Round 2 in the great TCP/IP versus OSI Debate". I expected a bit more than everyone being quite. Is Darth Vader watching or something? I've been working on OSI for a few years and it seems that most of what Joachin is presenting is right. I'm a little disapointed in explanations about why this obsurdity has developed the way it has. I am sure a lot of developers love OSI over arpanet, I'd like to here their story. Also, it might be nice to hear why arpnet is migrating to OSI; do the arpa developers really like ASN1 more than postscript? I found programing in ASN1 with the NBS meta compiler very time consuming. What about using postscript instead of ASN1 for network management and Manufactoring Messageing? Is it really that important to check, cross-check, and then tripple-check as is done in OSI and ASN1. Can't we just assume like Joachim points out that the connection above transport is reliable and then send programs like postscript to due what we want? Pete Delaney - Nixdorf UCC | pete@relay.NIXCTC.DE Prefered Addr Loffel Strasse 3 | pyramid!nixctc!pete UUCP from Calf 7000 Stuttgart 70 West Germany | Phone: +49 (711) 7685-128
sylvain@roxy.chorus.fr (Sylvain Langlois) (04/20/89)
In "TCP/IP versus OSI" (<1042@nixctc.DE>), pete@relay.nixctc.de (Pete Delaney) writes: >[..]. Also, it might be nice to hear why >arpnet is migrating to OSI; Arpanet has to move to *real* international standards someday, even if the protocol suite it uses today has shown it was far more superior to the currently available implementations. Bringing OSI implementations up to TCP/IP and known applications today's quality is, to my own advice, a question of time. People working on the ISODE (Marshall Rose, Steve Kille and co.) are doing a wonderful job in this way. Once 4.4BSD OSI support will be available, I guess people will be more motivated than they are today. >[...] do the arpa developers really like ASN1 >more than postscript? PostScript has nothing to do here. > Can't we just assume like Joachim points out >that the connection above transport is reliable The problem seems to me that reliability has different meannings, depanding on the context the Transport Service is used. Sylvain ---------------- Sylvain Langlois "Dogmatic attachement to the supposed merits (sylvain@chorus.fr) of a particular structure hinders the search (sylvain%chorus.fr%uunet.uu.net) of an appropriate structure" (Robert Fripp)