iav1917@ritcv.UUCP (alan i. vymetalik) (06/12/86)
[ E = line_eater^2 ] In article <503@mips.UUCP> kim@mips.UUCP writes: > >And lesee, I recall Borland promising to support the Amiga in the 1st >issue of AmigaWorld, etc. Haven't seen anything further from them since >then ... looks like they are catering only to PC-DOS machines, since >their latest offering (TurboPROLOG) won't even run on a generic MS-DOS >machine ... ridiculous for a *compiler*! > >/kim >UUCP: {decvax,ucbvax,ihnp4}!decwrl!mips!kim Now here's a sore spot! Borland introduced a fairly decent Prolog compiler and has settled firmly into IBM's pocket. They have for- saken the rest of the PC-industry by only releasing a PC-DOS version of what's going to become a de-facto programming standard much in the same way as Turbo Pascal. Well, can you blame them? I mean there are MILLIONS of PC-DOS machines out there. A gorgeous user-base just ripe for the picking. However, I think that Borland is going to loose a lot of respect if not support from all non-PC-DOS users if they do not plan to release a generic MS-DOS version of Turbo Prolog. I suggest that those PC owners who want Prolog but do not have 100% compatibles get on the horn and send Borland a letter. The more people who do this the better! Maybe we can show them that there are other people out here besides those three-letter people. Personally, I have written them myself to complain and question them. They have been too busy to respond to my two letters. Well, as an owner of and consultant for DEC Rainbows, I find it disheartening that they have forsaken the very machine they began their Turbo Pascal project on. Let's write them! Everyone who wants to see a generic MS-DOS version of Turbo Prolog - WRITE! Come on. Maybe we can make history here. Alan ---------------------------------------------------- When not causing small riots: alan i. vymetalik bitnet: aiv1974@ritvaxd uucp: {allegra,seismo}!rochester!ritcv!iav1917 ---------------------------------------------------- Disclaimer: The opinions expressed herein are solely mine and I am solely responsible for their content and nature. No one else is to be held accountable. Turbo Prolog and Turbo Pascal are trademarks of Borland, International.
kim@mips.UUCP (06/15/86)
[ "Send lawyers, guns, and money ..." ] > Let's write them! Everyone who wants to see a generic MS-DOS version > of Turbo Prolog - WRITE! Come on. Maybe we can make history here. > > Alan I would also like to get an answer from Borland as to when we might see their mythical "TurboC" ... for *any* machine. I purchased TurboPascal 1.0 about a month after it was released, which got me put on Borland's mailing-list. In a couple of their mailings (which were four-color, four-page, newspaper/newsprint things), they said that their "C" would be available "soon". I was never one to hold my breath waiting for announced s/w that would be available "soon", but when I upgraded to TurboPascal 2.0, I did ask the marketing person that I spoke with at Borland when "C" was coming out. "Within the next 6 months", I was told. When I upgraded to 3.x, I asked again. Then the answer was "We dunno". I finally broke down and purchased both Eco-C and MIX C. Wonder what Borland will say when it comes time to upgrade TurboPascal to 4.0? (Assuming they will make an MS-DOS version of 4.0 even available :-) ). ^^ /kim -- UUCP: {decvax,ucbvax,ihnp4}!decwrl!mips!kim DDD: 408-720-1700 x231 USPS: MIPS Computer Systems Inc, 930 E. Arques Av, Sunnyvale, CA 94086 CIS: 76535,25
chapman@pavepaws.berkeley.edu (Brent Chapman) (06/15/86)
In article <507@mips.UUCP> kim@mips.UUCP writes: > >> Let's write them! Everyone who wants to see a generic MS-DOS version >> of Turbo Prolog - WRITE! Come on. Maybe we can make history here. >> >> Alan > >I would also like to get an answer from Borland as to when we might see >their mythical "TurboC" ... for *any* machine. I have this sneaky little suspicion that Borland has a nearly-complete C compiler already, and that they are merely waiting for the final draft of the ANSI standard to come out, so they can whip theirs into shape and kick it out the door with some sort of "We're the FIRST to meet the COMPLETE ANSI standard!" type of claim. I have no evidence of this, but it wouldn't surprise me in the least. I can't think of any other reason that Kahn hasn't come out with something that so many people obviously want from him. Brent -- Brent Chapman chapman@pavepaws.berkeley.edu ucbvax!pavepaws!chapman TANSTAAFL! (There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch!)