[comp.lang.postscript] Postscript Cartridge for HPLJII

hak@cooper.cooper.EDU (Jeff Hakner) (01/03/90)

I just received an ad for a Postscript plug-in cartridge for
the Hp LaserJet II.  The company is TSA, and the price is $699.
I would greatly appreciate answers to the following:

1) Who else makes these boards, and at what prices?
2) We already have a large number of troff users who rely on
   the jetroff package, which uses standard PCL to print ditroff
   on the HP.  How will we be able to use PCL, if at all?
3) I assume PS will be much faster for just about everything.
   Therefore, I'd like to use it with troff.  Where out there
   are the troff->PS converters?
4) The ad claims "100% PS compatability".  How true?

Please EMAIL, I will summarize:

hak%meagan.cooper.edu@CMCL2.NYU.EDU

Jeff Hakner
Cooper Union Computer Center
New York, NY

jja@etana.tut.fi (Ahola Jari) (01/04/90)

From article <1991@cooper.cooper.EDU>, by hak@cooper.cooper.EDU (Jeff Hakner):
> I just received an ad for a Postscript plug-in cartridge for
> the Hp LaserJet II.  The company is TSA, and the price is $699.
> I would greatly appreciate answers to the following:
> 
> 1) Who else makes these boards, and at what prices?

Jan 90 Byte has an article of Pacific Data Products Pacific Page cartridge
which also turns your lj series II printer to a postscript compatible one.
It's priced at $695 but retails for $500 and below (check for instance the ads
in the same Byte).

They also have another interesting cartridge, which turns your lj to a 
HPGL plotter.

> 2) We already have a large number of troff users who rely on
>    the jetroff package, which uses standard PCL to print ditroff
>    on the HP.  How will we be able to use PCL, if at all?

Postscript mode can be changed back to PCL via programming and front panel
controls.

> 3) I assume PS will be much faster for just about everything.
>    Therefore, I'd like to use it with troff.  Where out there
>    are the troff->PS converters?

Pacific Page prints at the speed of one third of the Apple Laserwriter II.

> 4) The ad claims "100% PS compatability".  How true?
> 

Printed all they fed to it and correctly.


> Jeff Hakner
> Cooper Union Computer Center
> New York, NY

-jja

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dkazdan@cwsys2..CWRU.Edu (David Kazdan) (01/04/90)

Has anyone heard anything about the Postscript cartridge for the HPIIP,
like if it has been marketed yet?

--David

amanda@mermaid.intercon.com (Amanda Walker) (01/04/90)

In article <10576@etana.tut.fi>, jja@etana.tut.fi (Ahola Jari) writes:
> Jan 90 Byte has an article of Pacific Data Products Pacific Page cartridge
> which also turns your lj series II printer to a postscript compatible one.
> It's priced at $695 but retails for $500 and below (check for instance the ads
> in the same Byte).

Pacific Page's cartridge uses PheonixPage, which is fine unless you want
to use Adobe fonts.  HP has a cartridge with Adobe PostScript in it for about
$995 (I don't know what the street price is).  For churning out documents
and Illustrations that use the "basic four" typefaces (Times, Helevtica,
Courier, & Symbol) though, the Pacific Data Products cartridge should work
fine.

Disclaimer: not having a LaserJet, I haven't had much chance to play with
either of these.  Caveat Emptor.

Amanda Walker
InterCon Systems Corporation
--

prc@erbe.se (Robert Claeson) (01/04/90)

In article <1676@intercon.com>, amanda@mermaid.intercon.com (Amanda Walker) writes:

> HP has a cartridge with Adobe PostScript in it for about $995
> (I don't know what the street price is).

Canon has also released a cartridge with real Adobe PostScript in it
for all their laser printers. Is there anyone who'd had a chance to
try it yet?

-- 
          Robert Claeson      E-mail: rclaeson@erbe.se
	  ERBE DATA AB

tj@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (Terry Jones) (01/06/90)

I just test out the Pacific Page PostScript clone cartridge in a LaserJet
series II printer. Sells for $699 cdn.

It does PostScript from the few sources I was able to try, Windows 286
with Corel Draw 1.1 as well as some other howm brew rudimentry stuff.

It is slow. Real slow. I don't think the hardware in the Series II is any
screaming processor at best and the cartridge does not contain any 
coprocessor. It is ROM and EPROM inside with a few PALs.

It did do a nice job on the things I tried but it was relatively slow.

WordPerfect 5.0 will run a laserjet II at rated speed in PCL mode.
In PS mode with Pacific page it will not.

It gives you very great flexibility but if you want to do desktop
publishing a lot or use large varieties of fonts, get a real
PostScript printer. (And if you want to avoid hastles get an Adobe 
PostScript printer... no I don't work for Adobe, there are just many things
that Adobe does right (maybe for the wrong reasons but...))

You CAN switch to PCL mode with Pacific Page.

The one I had did NOT work with the LaserJet IIP yet. I hear there is a
new one expected for that. 
I don't know, but I think it will work with the IID.

When the IIP version comes out I might be using one at home where speed doesn't
count.
tj

tj@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (Terry Jones) (01/06/90)

I just read in Seybold outlook on professional computing that the Pacific
Page 11P is out and is significantly faster than the II version and compares
quite well with a LaserWriter IINT on many things including text and graphics
intensive applications. They also say that HP AND Adobe are expected to 
release a product in Jan or Feb.

All the Pacific Page products require you to have 2 meg memory expansion.
tj