[net.micro] DEC Pro 350

guy (02/14/83)

Note that the "official" DEC operating system for the PC350 is P/OS, better
known as "RSX-11M with a menu-oriented shell".  At one point, a long time ago,
I was working on a machine which was a single-user machine running RT-11 and
which was going to become a multi-user machine.  I looked both at RSX-11M and
UNIX (Sixth Edition!), and concluded that UNIX was FAR friendlier to the
novice user.  As such, UNIX with a menu-oriented shell is probably as good
as RSX-11M with a menu-oriented shell for the novice user.  The claim that
UNIX is ONLY good for programmers is a base canard (as opposed to an acid
canard).
					Guy Harris
					RLG Corporation
				(decvax!duke!mcnc!rlgvax!guy)

mercury@ut-ngp.UUCP (07/15/86)

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I would be *most* appreciative if anyone `out there' was able to point
me in the direction of *any* free software (read: public domain,
shareware, *cheap*, etc.) for the DEC Professional 350.  I found this
archiaic boat anchor sitting in the computer room at work; apparently
no one else wanted to touch it, so I adopted it and am using it as a
vt100 emulator.  To write this message, in fact.

I'd just *love* to be able to do more.

In particular, I'd like to get my hands on a copy of Kermit, and,
should it exist, a copy of Xinu.

Thanks!

Larry Baker


Larry Baker               Net/UUCP:  mercury@ut-ngp.{ARPA, UUCP, UTEXAS.EDU}
UT Austin                            ihnp4!seismo!ut-sally!ut-ngp!mercury
Computer Science          Local:     baker@walt.UTEXAS.EDU
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Larry Baker               Net/UUCP:  mercury@ut-ngp.{ARPA, UUCP, UTEXAS.EDU}
UT Austin                            ihnp4!seismo!ut-sally!ut-ngp!mercury
Computer Science          Local:     baker@walt.UTEXAS.EDU

spf@bonnie.UUCP (07/16/86)

> shareware, *cheap*, etc.) for the DEC Professional 350.  I found this
> archiaic boat anchor sitting in the computer room at work; apparently
> no one else wanted to touch it, so I adopted it and am using it as a
> vt100 emulator.  To write this message, in fact.

Being a PRO 350 owner (and with my own money, yet, though I got
a 70% discount through a university), I cringe at such references
as "vintage", "archiaic", and "boat anchor".  True, the PRO 350
is a PDP-11/23, and PDP-11 is a 1970 architecture, but humor me.
While the 350 is about performance-equivalent to the IBM PC, it
can be upgraded to an 11/73 (PRO 380), which is about 3 times
faster.  Yeah, I know, that isn't a cheap prospect (probably
around $2K).  You can also get bigger hard disks (mine has 10M,
but I can get a 20M for $350, and I think a 33M is available).
It also runs a nice implementation of UNIX System V (in the body
of VENIX, which has some useful real-time extensions).

So don't play taps.  The machine is decent; the problem is just
that DEC gets bored with any of its products over 2 years old
(exception: VAX-11/780).  The PDP is STILL a nice architecture,
for 16-bits, and it's dynamite for real-time stuff, which is
my use of it.

Steve Frysinger
bonnie!spf

P.S.  Yes, I DO still have a Fisher vacuum-tube stereo amp, and
      a 1968 Triumph GT-6.  Wanna make somethin' of it?

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 No, I don't work for DEC. If I did, I'd support my product line.