[net.micro] Request for comments on Wyse terminals

sambo@ukma.UUCP (07/15/86)

I am thinking about getting an Ampro Little Board/186.  If I decide to buy
it, I will need to get a terminal along with it.  I am wondering about the
suitability of the Wyse 30, 50, and 60 terminals.  I am especially concerned
about their reliability, since I live in Honduras.  (I will be in the US for
another two months or so.)  I will be almost exclusively programming in Modu-
la-2.  It would be nice to have a character set that includes the English and
Spanish (and maybe French) alphabets, plus some line drawing and math (and
Greek) symbols.
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jeffs@quad1.UUCP (07/15/86)

> 
> 
> I am thinking about getting an Ampro Little Board/186.  If I decide to buy
> it, I will need to get a terminal along with it.  I am wondering about the
> suitability of the Wyse 30, 50, and 60 terminals.  I am especially concerned
> about their reliability, since I live in Honduras.  (I will be in the US for
> another two months or so.)  I will be almost exclusively programming in Modu-
> la-2.  It would be nice to have a character set that includes the English and
> Spanish (and maybe French) alphabets, plus some line drawing and math (and
> Greek) symbols.
> ---------------------------------
> Samuel A. Figueroa, Dept. of CS, Univ. of KY, Lexington, KY  40506-0027

	We have several here, and they do seem reliable... HOWEVER

		the attributes they offer are implemented in such
		a manner as to require actual space in the screen
		display, which makes for some interesting confusion
		if your software uses attributes and THINKS that it is
		keeping track of your screen position...
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jpm@quad1.UUCP (John McMamee) (07/15/86)

As another posting pointed out, the Wyse 50 takes up screen space for
attributes, which sane terminals stopped doing years ago.  I personally
don't like the keyboard, and I could never find a way to turn off the
status line at the top of the screen (which drives me nuts).  My advice
is to beg, borrow, or steal a Wyse 50 for a day to play with it and
see what you think.
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timlee@bnrmtv.UUCP (07/17/86)

> I am thinking about getting an Ampro Little Board/186.  If I decide to buy
> it, I will need to get a terminal along with it.  I am wondering about the
> suitability of the Wyse 30, 50, and 60 terminals.  I am especially concerned
> about their reliability, since I live in Honduras.  (I will be in the US for
> another two months or so.)  I will be almost exclusively programming in Modu-
> la-2.  It would be nice to have a character set that includes the English and
> Spanish (and maybe French) alphabets, plus some line drawing and math (and
> Greek) symbols.

The wyse 50 terminal is generally a good terminal (at least with UNIX).
The keys are all in the right places for QWERTY touch typists.  It has
80/132 columns, normal/reverse video (ie. choose which is the "normal"
mode and which is "reverse"), blink/nonblink cursor, line/block cursor,
the usual data/stop/parity/duplex settings, 50-19200 baud rate settings,
and whatever else terminals use.  Oh yeah, also a auxiliary port, to echo
things onto whatever is plugged into there (usually printer).  It emulates
itself, tvi925, tvi920, tvi910, adds-viewpoint, and something else
(hazeltine, maybe?).  There is also a 25th (status) line.  Don't think it
has graphics or other language symbols (not super sure on this one).

Problems:

The tvi925 emulation is slightly brain-damaged:  you can't have auto
newline and vi working correctly at the same time.  (Even if you aren't
using UNIX, beware of the emulation glitches which could appear elsewhere).

Big problem from your standpoint:  The on/off switch is poorly designed
and breaks easily.  Since you will be in Honduras, you have 2 choices
here:  (a) stock up on switches and be handy at fixing them (b) plug into
a power strip and never touch the switch on the terminal.

glenn@c3pe.UUCP (07/22/86)

In article <523@quad1.UUCP>, jpm@quad1.UUCP (John McMamee) writes:
> don't like the keyboard, and I could never find a way to turn off the
> status line at the top of the screen (which drives me nuts).  My advice

To turn off the status line, get into the setup mode and set "status" to 
"off".  

(I personaly don't mind the keyboard, preferring it by far over the Wyse 30.
I'm rather fond of the Wyse 75, but that costs more...  And it's even less 
obvious how to turn off the status line:  Control-right-arrow toggles it.)

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					U.S. Army Corps of Engineers
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wsr@lmi-angel.UUCP (Wolfgang Rupprecht) (07/23/86)

In article <> jpm@quad1.UUCP (John McMamee) writes about wyse 50 terminal :
>I personally don't like the keyboard, and I could never find a way to
>turn off the status line at the top of the screen (which drives me
>nuts).

The status line (at least on the Wyse75) turns off via Control-RightArrow.  

I really like the keyboard. (It's the only keyboard that stays
confortably on your knees, with the tilt-bar keeping it from slipping.
Really! Talk about relaxed typing! )
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