orthlieb@adobe.COM (Carl Orthlieb) (08/21/90)
I have seen a few items come by on the net that seem to crop up from time to time. It has been suggested that Adobe periodically post a 'Frequently Asked Questions' (FAQ) article so that new users of PostScript can get answers to these questions. Being the current voice of Adobe, I think this is a good idea, and wanted to know if anybody had ideas of what would be appropriate topics that this article would cover. Ideas so far: What is Encapsulated PostScript? How to use Adobe's file server What is PostScript Level 2? What are the Document Structuring Conventions? What are Adobe Font Metrics? Any other ideas? Email to me at orthlieb@adobe.com, I'll put it all together and come up with the FAQ article. Thanks, Carl 8-)
nol2321@dsacg4.dsac.dla.mil (Jim Dunn) (08/21/90)
FAQ for PostScript Questions, eh? Great idea! How about someone giving us some idea of the various software/hardware requirements for printing PostScript. For instance... Scenario #1 No software and no hardware. What would be the most cost effective solution to PostScript printing? Scenario #2 WordPerfect or PcWrite or ??? and HP LaserJet or DeskJet. What would be the best/fastest way of printing PostScript? Scenario #3 Softfonts, hardfonts, conversion software, etc. Which is the easiest to handle, most cost effective... MOST FONT for the BUCK! :) I'm most concerned about information concerning "translation" of PS files into HP PCL language. I.e. GoScript, UltraScript, GhostScript, PSMAGIC, whatever... But the article that PcMag had a while back showed performance ratings WITHOUT A 80X87 COPROCESSOR!!! I've heard it rumored that with a 80x87 and a couple of megs of memory you can get a 90 minute Apple LaserWriter document in 90 SECONDS using GoScript, etc. This is EXTREMELY important due to the fact that I don't need to waste my $$$ on memory for the printer IF I can buy memory AND a 80x87 chip for my CPU which can ALSO BE USED WITH OTHER SOFTWARE!!! Please; let's get some REAL statistics; I know that Adobe Inc may not be the correct person to talk/yell/ask, but hopefully SOMEONE will be able to... (if no one else, I would be happy to collect info/create a demo/sample postscript file for timed printing use) Please reply netters! Jim jdunn@dsac.dla.mil
rcd@ico.isc.com (Dick Dunn) (08/22/90)
nol2321@dsacg4.dsac.dla.mil (Jim Dunn) wrote about the proposed FAQ list. (In passing - Jim: your article has a badly-broken header line; you're getting your email address into the Followup-To: line.) Jim's questions are things like "what's the most cost-effective...?" or "which app [or printer] should I use?" or "which is the easiest...?" Questions like these are interesting and important, but it's hard to package up canned answers because (1) they're subjective and (2) they're always changing. In fact, I'd say they more properly make up the substance of the actual discussion in the group. FAQ is typically to handle the stuff that doesn't need to be discussed much; it has "pat" answers. There are examples in Carl Orthlieb's article--a typical one is "What is encapsulated PostScript?" It's a common question and it has a relatively simple answer that's not subject to much debate...so we don't need ten variants of the answer posted every time someone asks it. In other words, FAQ is a way to offload the stuff the regular readers know so that the discussion can focus on things under contention. Also, it's a good idea to keep seriously debatable stuff out of FAQ because otherwise a bi-monthly posting generates a bi-monthly rehash of the same discussions and flames. I'm not trying to discourage the subjects Jim mentioned. Quite the contrary; I think his issues deserve active discussion instead of the passive place in FAQ. -- Dick Dunn rcd@ico.isc.com -or- ico!rcd Boulder, CO (303)449-2870 ...Are you making this up as you go along?
shiva@well.sf.ca.us (Kenneth Porter) (12/25/90)
Frequently Asked Questions in comp.lang.postscript No warranty is made as to the validity of the answers below. I don't work for any of these companies, and I've used only some of these products, so there will probably be minor errors. I welcome corrections. If you think of questions appropiate for this FAQ, or would like to improve on an answer, please email me at the address below. ================================================================ What is EPS? How do I convert PS to EPS? EPS (Encapsulated PostScript) is a PostScript language program that is limited to a subset of the language suitable for inclusion in a document as an illustration. In order to meet this requirement, the program must leave the interpreter in the same state it was in at the program's beginning (ie. all stacks returned to their original contents, the graphics state back where it was, and any memory (VM) consumed by the program has been released). The EPS program must not use operators that initialize or permanently change the state of the machine. As a special case, the EPS program may use the showpage operator. The importing application is responsible for disabling the normal effects of showpage. Note that only one call to showpage may appear in the program (ie. the program generates one page of output). The EPS program should make no environment-sensitive decisions (the importing application may be trying to attain some special effect, and the EPS program shouldn't screw this up), although it can use some device-dependent tricks to improve appearance such as a snap-to-pixel algorithm. Additionally, the program must have an identifying comment at the top indicating that it is a conforming program, and a comment specifying the region on the page that is changed (the "BoundingBox" comment). The complete EPS specification is available from Adobe (see below). A variation of EPS embeds the PS text in a binary file which contains a header and either a TIFF or MetaFile preview image. The header defines where in the file each section (EPS, TIFF, or MetaFile) starts and ends. On the Macintosh, the preview is stored as a PICT in the file's resource fork. To convert from PS to EPS, one must guarantee that the PS file meets the above requirements. If the actual program conforms to the programming requirements, then one can simply add the required comments at the top of the file saying that the file is EPS and giving its BoundingBox dimensions. ================================================================ How can I convert PS to [other graphics format]? How can I convert [other graphics format] to PS? How can I display PS on my [brand x] computer? Since PostScript is not just a picture-description language, but in fact a complete programming language, one needs a complete PostScript interpreter to convert or display a PostScript graphic. Adobe PostScript interpreters are available for some machines (notably those using the NextStep GUI). Numerous PostScript interpreter clones, both commercial and free, are available for other machines. Not all clone interpreters know how to handle Adobe's encrypted Type 1 fonts, and some have other incompatibilities. Clone interpreters will not have Adobe's proprietary rendering technology which interprets font hints to improve the appearance of fonts shown at small sizes on low-resolution devices. Ghostscript, a freeware product associated with the GNU project, is available for PC's, Sun's, X servers, and other architectures. Source is included. For more information about Ghostscript, read the gnu.ghostscript newsgroup, or contact the author at ghost@aladdin.com (L. Peter Deutsch). Sun Open Look users can use Sun's NeWs or a new Sun Sparc-based interpreter for driving non-PostScript printers (I forget the product name). MSDOS users can use Go-Script, QMS UltraScript-PC, or Freedom of the Press. File format conversion is available with Hijack-PS. ================================================================ What documentation is available on the PostScript language? Adobe has written numerous manuals, sometimes referred to by PostScript gurus by the color of the cover. These books are published by Addison-Wesley. They are listed here in order of (my) suggested reading: PostScript Language Tutorial and Cookbook ("The Blue Book") PostScript Language Reference ("The Red Book") PostScript Language Program Design ("The Green Book") Adobe Type 1 Font Format ("The Black Book") Books published outside of Adobe include: Real World PostScript ("The Orange Book") Inside PostScript ("The White Book") Thinking in PostScript A new edition of the red book is scheduled to be released about December 1990 which will incorporate features of Display PostScript, advanced color handling, and new features added to the language since the first edition. ================================================================ How do I get bitmap representations of Adobe fonts? Use the Font Foundary program included with the font. If you don't have it, contact Adobe for an upgrade. ================================================================ How do I get in touch with Adobe? Adobe Systems Incorporated 1585 Charleston Road P.O. Box 7900 Mountain View, CA 94039-7900 Phones: Main: (415)961-4400 Tech Support: (415)961-0911 Developers Line & Tech Docs (voice mail): (415)961-4111 Sales: (800)344-8335 ================================================================ Ken (shiva@well.sf.ca.us) "Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!"
rokicki@Neon.Stanford.EDU (Tomas G. Rokicki) (12/30/90)
> What is EPS? > In order to meet this requirement, the program must leave the > interpreter in the same state it was in at the program's > beginning (ie. all stacks returned to their original contents, > the graphics state back where it was, and any memory (VM) > consumed by the program has been released). Close, but not quite right. It is the importing application's responsibility to enclose the graphic in save/restore, so all memory doesn't have to be released and the graphics state doesn't have to be restored. But the program should not (for instance) leave any recent strings on the stack because that would cause an invalid restore . . . -tom
shiva@well.sf.ca.us (Kenneth Porter) (04/07/91)
Frequently Asked Questions in comp.lang.postscript No warranty is made as to the validity of the answers below. I don't work for any of these companies, and I've used only some of these products, so there will probably be minor errors. I welcome corrections. If you think of questions appropiate for this FAQ, or would like to improve on an answer, please email me at the address below. ================================================================ What is EPS? How do I convert PS to EPS? How can I convert PS to [other graphics format]? How can I convert [other graphics format] to PS? How can I convert ASCII text to PS? How can I display PS on my [brand x] computer? Should I leave my printer on? How do I suppress the power-on start page? How do I remove a persistent ("permanent") downloaded font? How do I reset the printer without power-cycling? What documentation is available on the PostScript language? How do I get bitmap representations of Adobe fonts? What FTP resources are available? How do I get in touch with Adobe? Where can I get official documentation? How do I get the physical size of a page? ================================================================ What is EPS? How do I convert PS to EPS? An Encapsulated PostScript file (EPSF) is a standard format for importing and exporting PostScript language files in all environments. It is usually a single page PostScript language program that describes an illustration. The purpose of the EPS file is to be included as an illustration in other PostScript language page descriptions. The EPS file can contain any combination of text, graphics, and images. An EPS file is the same as any other PostScript language page description, with some restrictions. An EPS file must be a conforming file, that is, it must conform to the document structuring conventions (DSC). At a minimum, it must include a header comment, %!PS-Adobe-3.0 EPSF-3.0, and a bounding box comment, %%BoundingBox: llx lly urx ury, that describes the bounds of the illustration. The EPS program must not use operators that initialize or permanently change the state of the machine in a manner that cannot be undone by the enclosing application's use of save and restore (eg. the operators starting with "init" like initgraphics). As a special case, the EPS program may use the showpage operator. The importing application is responsible for disabling the normal effects of showpage. The EPS program should make no environment-sensitive decisions (the importing application may be trying to attain some special effect, and the EPS program shouldn't screw this up), although it can use some device-dependent tricks to improve appearance such as a snap-to-pixel algorithm. The complete EPS specification is available from Adobe (see below). A variation of EPS embeds the PS text in a binary file which contains a header and either a TIFF or MetaFile preview image. The header defines where in the file each section (EPS, TIFF, or MetaFile) starts and ends. On the Macintosh, the preview is stored as a PICT in the file's resource fork. To convert from PS to EPS, one must guarantee that the PS file meets the above requirements. If the actual program conforms to the programming requirements, then one can simply add the required comments at the top of the file saying that the file is EPS and giving its BoundingBox dimensions. ================================================================ How can I convert PS to [other graphics format]? How can I display PS on my [brand x] computer? Since PostScript is not just a picture-description language, but in fact a complete programming language, one needs a complete PostScript interpreter to convert or display a PostScript graphic. Adobe PostScript interpreters are available for some machines (notably those using the NextStep GUI). Numerous PostScript interpreter clones, both commercial and free, are available for other machines. Not all clone interpreters know how to handle Adobe's encrypted Type 1 fonts, and some have other incompatibilities. Clone interpreters will not have Adobe's proprietary rendering technology which interprets font hints to improve the appearance of fonts shown at small sizes on low-resolution devices. Ghostscript, a freeware product associated with the GNU project, is available for PC's, Sun's, X servers, and other architectures. Source is included. For more information about Ghostscript, read the gnu.ghostscript.bug newsgroup, or contact the author at ghost@aladdin.com (L. Peter Deutsch). Sun OpenWindows users can preview PostScript on-screen using a program called "pageview". Or they can print postscript on any raster printer using the NeWSprint product which uses the same PostScript interpreter found in OpenWindows. AmigaDOS users can use PixelScript, a commercial product from Pixelations, and Post, which is freely redistributable and is available on Compuserve.. MSDOS users can use Go-Script, QMS UltraScript-PC, or Freedom of the Press. File format conversion is available with Hijack-PS. ================================================================ How can I convert [other graphics format] to PS? How can I convert ASCII text to PS? A list of text-to-PS software is available from Howard Gayle (howard@ericsson.se), including his cz package. Under Unix, you can use Adobe's TranScript package. To convert various bitmap formats to EPS, see the frequently asked questions posting in comp.graphics. ================================================================ What documentation is available on the PostScript language? Adobe has written numerous manuals, sometimes referred to by PostScript gurus by the color of the cover. These books are published by Addison-Wesley. They are listed here in order of (my) suggested reading: PostScript Language Tutorial & Cookbook, Adobe Systems Incorporated Addison Wesley 1985, 1990 (The "Blue" Book) PostScript Language Reference Manual, Second Edition, Adobe Systems Incorporated, Addison Wesley 1985, 1990 (The New "Red" Book (really Red and White)) PostScript Language Program Design, Adobe Systems Incorporated Addison Wesley 1988 (The "Green" Book) Adobe Type 1 Font Format ("The Black Book") ---------------------------------------------------------------- Other books include: Thinking in PostScript, Glenn C. Reid, Addison-Wesley, 1989 Understanding PostScript, David A. Holzgang, Sybex, 1988 Display PostScript Programming, David A. Holzgang, Addison Wesley, 1990 Mastering Adobe Illustrator, David A. Holzgang, Addison Wesley, 1988 Learning PostScript, A Visual Approach, Ross Smith, Peachpit Press, 1990 Real World PostScript, Stephen F. Roth Addison Wesley, 1988 ("The Orange Book") Graphic Design With PostScript, Gerard Kunkel Scott, Foresman and Company, 1990 A PostScript Cookbook, Barry Thomas Van Nostrand Reinhold, 1988 Inside PostScript, Frank Merritt Braswell, Systems of Merritt & Peachpit Press 1989 The Verbum Book of PostScript Illustration, Michael Gosney, Janet Ashford, Linnea Dayton M&T Books, 1990 Mastering Adobe Illustrator 88, Deke McClelland, Craig Danuloff Publishing Resources Inc.-Dow Jones Irwin 1989. Adobe Illustrator 88, The Official Handbook for Designers, Tony Bove, Cheryl Rhodes, Fred Davis , Bantam Computer Books 1987 Encapsulated PostScript, Peter Vollenweider, Prentice Hall 1990. ================================================================ Should I leave my printer on? How do I suppress the power-on start page? How do I remove a persistent ("permanent") downloaded font? How do I reset the printer without power-cycling? The general consensus seems to be that most computer equipment lasts longer if left on. This presents less thermal stress to the components. Disabling the start page is described in your printer's PostScript supplement. The most common sequence is "serverdict begin 0 exitserver statusdict begin false dostartpage end". One trick for removing a persistent font (this requires that you knew you would need to remove it before you downloaded it) is to issue a "serverdict begin 0 exitserver /magic-cookie save def" before downloading and sending "serverdict begin 0 exitserver magic-cookie restore" when you want to reclaim all VM used since the first download. The downside of this is that is uses up a save level, but this is usually not a problem. Most printers can be reset by issuing "serverdict begin 0 exitserver systemdict /quit get exec". ================================================================ How do I get bitmap representations of Adobe fonts? Use the Font Foundary program included with the font. If you don't have it, contact Adobe for an upgrade. ================================================================ What FTP resources are available? There are bitmaps of many Adobe fonts in the info-mac archives on sumex-aim.stanford.edu. They are available in TeX form, with the encoding expected by dvips, on ftp.cs.umb.edu [192.12.26.23], in pub/tex/ps-screenfonts.tar.Z. ================================================================ How do I get in touch with Adobe? Where can I get official documentation? Adobe Systems Incorporated 1585 Charleston Road P.O. Box 7900 Mountain View, CA 94039-7900 Phones: Main: (415)961-4400 Tech Support: (415)961-0911 Developers Line & Tech Docs (voice mail): (415)961-4111 Sales: (800)344-8335 A selection of technical documents is available from Adobe's file server, including the aforementioned EPS specification. For more information on this, send the one-word message "help" to ps-file-server@adobe.com. These documents are also available by mail; call the Developers Line and ask for the documents catalog. ================================================================ How do I get the physical size of a page? The initial clipping path gives you the size of the imagable area. Use "clippath pathbbox" to get these coordinates. If you *must* know the size of the device's imageable area, use the sequence "gsave initclip clippath pathbbox grestore", but this will prevent an enclosing application from using the clippath to achieve some special effects (such as multiple pages per page). ================================================================ Who has helped fixed errors in earlier drafts? I am indebted to the following people for adding functionality to this document: wet!icv (Ilsa VanHook) skdutta@cs.tamu.edu (Saumen K Dutta) howard@ericsson.se (Howard Gayle) tneff@bfmny0.BFM.COM (Tom Neff) orthlieb@adobe (Carl Orthlieb) naughton@Eng.Sun.COM (Patrick Naughton) flar@Eng.Sun.COM (Jim Graham) cwitty@cs.Stanford.EDU (Carl Witty) squash@math.ufl.edu (Jonathan) rsmith@well.sf.ca.us (Ross Smith) u12570@uicvm.uic.edu (Edward A. Garay) karl@ai.mit.edu (Karl Berry) ================================================================ Ken (shiva@well.sf.ca.us) "Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!" s
shiva@well.sf.ca.us (Kenneth Porter) (05/29/91)
Frequently Asked Questions in comp.lang.postscript No warranty is made as to the validity of the answers below. I don't work for any of these companies, and I've used only some of these products, so there will probably be minor errors. I welcome corrections. If you think of questions appropiate for this FAQ, or would like to improve on an answer, please email me at the address below. ================================================================ What is EPS? How do I convert PS to EPS? How can I convert PS to [other graphics format]? How can I convert [other graphics format] to PS? How can I convert ASCII text to PS? How can I display PS on my [brand x] computer? Should I leave my printer on? How do I suppress the power-on start page? How do I remove a persistent ("permanent") downloaded font? How do I reset the printer without power-cycling? What documentation is available on the PostScript language? How do I get bitmap representations of Adobe fonts? What FTP resources are available? How do I get in touch with Adobe? Where can I get official documentation? How do I get the physical size of a page? ================================================================ What is EPS? How do I convert PS to EPS? An Encapsulated PostScript file (EPSF) is a standard format for importing and exporting PostScript language files in all environments. It is usually a single page PostScript language program that describes an illustration. The purpose of the EPS file is to be included as an illustration in other PostScript language page descriptions. The EPS file can contain any combination of text, graphics, and images. An EPS file is the same as any other PostScript language page description, with some restrictions. An EPS file must be a conforming file, that is, it must conform to the document structuring conventions (DSC). At a minimum, it must include a header comment, %!PS-Adobe-3.0 EPSF-3.0, and a bounding box comment, %%BoundingBox: llx lly urx ury, that describes the bounds of the illustration. The EPS program must not use operators that initialize or permanently change the state of the machine in a manner that cannot be undone by the enclosing application's use of save and restore (eg. the operators starting with "init" like initgraphics). As a special case, the EPS program may use the showpage operator. The importing application is responsible for disabling the normal effects of showpage. The EPS program should make no environment-sensitive decisions (the importing application may be trying to attain some special effect, and the EPS program shouldn't screw this up), although it can use some device-dependent tricks to improve appearance such as a snap-to-pixel algorithm. The complete EPS specification is available from Adobe (see below). A variation of EPS embeds the PS text in a binary file which contains a header and either a TIFF or MetaFile preview image. The header defines where in the file each section (EPS, TIFF, or MetaFile) starts and ends. On the Macintosh, the preview is stored as a PICT in the file's resource fork. To convert from PS to EPS, one must guarantee that the PS file meets the above requirements. If the actual program conforms to the programming requirements, then one can simply add the required comments at the top of the file saying that the file is EPS and giving its BoundingBox dimensions. ================================================================ How can I convert PS to [other graphics format]? How can I display PS on my [brand x] computer? Since PostScript is not just a picture-description language, but in fact a complete programming language, one needs a complete PostScript interpreter to convert or display a PostScript graphic. Adobe PostScript interpreters are available for some machines (notably those using the NextStep GUI). Numerous PostScript interpreter clones, both commercial and free, are available for other machines. Not all clone interpreters know how to handle Adobe's encrypted Type 1 fonts, and some have other incompatibilities. Clone interpreters will not have Adobe's proprietary rendering technology which interprets font hints to improve the appearance of fonts shown at small sizes on low-resolution devices. Ghostscript, a freeware product associated with the GNU project, is available for PC's, Sun's, X servers, and other architectures. Source is included. For more information about Ghostscript, read the gnu.ghostscript.bug newsgroup, or contact the author at ghost@aladdin.com (L. Peter Deutsch). Sun OpenWindows users can preview PostScript on-screen using a program called "pageview". Or they can print postscript on any raster printer using the NeWSprint product which uses the same PostScript interpreter found in OpenWindows. AmigaDOS users can use PixelScript, a commercial product from Pixelations, and Post, which is freely redistributable and is available on Compuserve.. MSDOS users can use Go-Script, QMS UltraScript-PC, or Freedom of the Press. File format conversion is available with Hijack-PS. ================================================================ How can I convert [other graphics format] to PS? How can I convert ASCII text to PS? A list of text-to-PS software is available from Howard Gayle (howard@ericsson.se), including his cz package. Under Unix, you can use Adobe's TranScript package. To convert various bitmap formats to EPS, see the frequently asked questions posting in comp.graphics. ================================================================ What documentation is available on the PostScript language? Adobe has written numerous manuals, sometimes referred to by PostScript gurus by the color of the cover. These books are published by Addison-Wesley. They are listed here in order of (my) suggested reading: PostScript Language Tutorial & Cookbook, Adobe Systems Incorporated Addison Wesley 1985, 1990 (The "Blue" Book) PostScript Language Reference Manual, Second Edition, Adobe Systems Incorporated, Addison Wesley 1985, 1990 (The New "Red" Book (really Red and White)) PostScript Language Program Design, Adobe Systems Incorporated Addison Wesley 1988 (The "Green" Book) Adobe Type 1 Font Format ("The Black Book") ---------------------------------------------------------------- Other books include: Thinking in PostScript, Glenn C. Reid, Addison-Wesley, 1989 Understanding PostScript, David A. Holzgang, Sybex, 1988 Display PostScript Programming, David A. Holzgang, Addison Wesley, 1990 Mastering Adobe Illustrator, David A. Holzgang, Addison Wesley, 1988 Learning PostScript, A Visual Approach, Ross Smith, Peachpit Press, 1990 Real World PostScript, Stephen F. Roth Addison Wesley, 1988 ("The Orange Book") Graphic Design With PostScript, Gerard Kunkel Scott, Foresman and Company, 1990 A PostScript Cookbook, Barry Thomas Van Nostrand Reinhold, 1988 Inside PostScript, Frank Merritt Braswell, Systems of Merritt & Peachpit Press 1989 The Verbum Book of PostScript Illustration, Michael Gosney, Janet Ashford, Linnea Dayton M&T Books, 1990 Mastering Adobe Illustrator 88, Deke McClelland, Craig Danuloff Publishing Resources Inc.-Dow Jones Irwin 1989. Adobe Illustrator 88, The Official Handbook for Designers, Tony Bove, Cheryl Rhodes, Fred Davis , Bantam Computer Books 1987 Encapsulated PostScript, Peter Vollenweider, Prentice Hall 1990. Running PostScript from MS-DOS, Gary Glover, Windcrest Books, 1989, ISBN 0-8306-2998-X ================================================================ Should I leave my printer on? How do I suppress the power-on start page? How do I remove a persistent ("permanent") downloaded font? How do I reset the printer without power-cycling? The general consensus seems to be that most computer equipment lasts longer if left on. This presents less thermal stress to the components. Disabling the start page is described in your printer's PostScript supplement. The most common sequence is "serverdict begin 0 exitserver statusdict begin false dostartpage end". One trick for removing a persistent font (this requires that you knew you would need to remove it before you downloaded it) is to issue a "serverdict begin 0 exitserver /magic-cookie save def" before downloading and sending "serverdict begin 0 exitserver magic-cookie restore" when you want to reclaim all VM used since the first download. The downside of this is that is uses up a save level, but this is usually not a problem. Most printers can be reset by issuing "serverdict begin 0 exitserver systemdict /quit get exec". ================================================================ How do I get bitmap representations of Adobe fonts? Use the Font Foundary program included with the font. If you don't have it, contact Adobe for an upgrade. ================================================================ What FTP resources are available? There are bitmaps of many Adobe fonts in the info-mac archives on sumex-aim.stanford.edu. They are available in TeX form, with the encoding expected by dvips, on ftp.cs.umb.edu [192.12.26.23], in pub/tex/ps-screenfonts.tar.Z. ================================================================ How do I get in touch with Adobe? Where can I get official documentation? Adobe Systems Incorporated 1585 Charleston Road P.O. Box 7900 Mountain View, CA 94039-7900 Phones: Main: (415)961-4400 Tech Support: (415)961-0911 Developers Line & Tech Docs (voice mail): (415)961-4111 Sales: (800)344-8335 A selection of technical documents is available from Adobe's file server, including the aforementioned EPS specification. For more information on this, send the one-word message "help" to ps-file-server@adobe.com. These documents are also available by mail; call the Developers Line and ask for the documents catalog. ================================================================ How do I get the physical size of a page? The initial clipping path gives you the size of the imagable area. Use "clippath pathbbox" to get these coordinates. If you *must* know the size of the device's imageable area, use the sequence "gsave initclip clippath pathbbox grestore", but this will prevent an enclosing application from using the clippath to achieve some special effects (such as multiple pages per page). ================================================================ Who has helped fixed errors in earlier drafts? I am indebted to the following people for adding functionality to this document: wet!icv (Ilsa VanHook) skdutta@cs.tamu.edu (Saumen K Dutta) howard@ericsson.se (Howard Gayle) tneff@bfmny0.BFM.COM (Tom Neff) orthlieb@adobe (Carl Orthlieb) naughton@Eng.Sun.COM (Patrick Naughton) flar@Eng.Sun.COM (Jim Graham) cwitty@cs.Stanford.EDU (Carl Witty) squash@math.ufl.edu (Jonathan) rsmith@well.sf.ca.us (Ross Smith) u12570@uicvm.uic.edu (Edward A. Garay) karl@ai.mit.edu (Karl Berry) ================================================================ Ken (shiva@well.sf.ca.us) "Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!"