egr@contact.uucp (Gordan Palameta) (02/21/91)
In <1991Jan28.195647.21789@craycos.com> pmk@craycos.com (Peter Klausler) writes: >> >>intended you to use (with the exception of DEL/ESC, which is in such a >>fucking brain-damaged position...right next to the left shift key. If >>you like it there, good for you. I don't-I've used close to 20 >>keyboards, and the HP is the ONLY ONE with ESC there.) Well, I got sick of having ESC next to Left Shift or on F12 on various different keyboards, and finally got into the habit of typing Control-[ (control open square bracket), which is in fact the ASCII code for ESC. It can be touch-typed, and it's standard on every keyboard I've tried. Try it, you'll like it...
karl@ima.isc.com (Karl Heuer) (02/28/91)
In article <1991Feb21.015322.14213@contact.uucp> egr@contact.uucp (Gordan Palameta) writes: >Well, I got sick of having ESC next to Left Shift or on F12 on various >different keyboards, and finally got into the habit of typing Control-[ >(control open square bracket), which is in fact the ASCII code for ESC. I've used two classes of terminals where Control-[ did not generate 0x1B. On one, there was a BACKTAB key where ESC should have been. The real ESC key was hidden so cleverly I couldn't find it for a while); so I gave up and tried Control-[. It didn't work--I got a backtab, because of the internal remapping that was being done in the firmware. On the other, left bracket and right bracket were on the same key, and using the Control key (with or without shift) would generate Control-], 0x1D. The only known way to generate 0x1B on such a keyboard is with the ESC key. Karl W. Z. Heuer (karl@ima.isc.com or uunet!ima!karl), The Walking Lint
quirk@quokka.rtp.dg.com (Peter Quirk) (03/02/91)
Don't forget the '[' key, and most of the other non-alpha, non-numeric keys are located all over the place on international keyboards of the PC-AT variety. Here's its location on some keyboards I know: German Third quadrant of the 8 key. Use CTRL/Alt-Gr/8 to get escape! Swedish/Finnish Same as German, but legend on front of key rather than on top French/Canadian Third quadrant of the '[' key on the US keyboard. Usre CTRL/Alt-GR/[ Spanish Same location as French/Canadian, but legend on front of key rather than on top of key Norwegian Same as Swedish/Finnish Danish Same as Swedish/Finnish Italian Same as Spanish Swiss Same as Spanish UK Same as US French Third quadrant of '5' key, legend on front By contrast, the ESC key is the top left key on all these keyboards. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Peter Quirk Internet: quirk@quokka.webo.dg.com Data General Corporation Phone: +1 (508)898 4679 3400 Computer Drive Fax: +1 (508)898 2684 Westboro, MA, USA 01581