ald1@pyuxe.UUCP (Alan L Dickman) (01/21/89)
Can anyone tell me the status of of ISO DP 10154 (?) which is the draft proposal for a Remote Procedure Call mechanism. Was it adopted? If you can recommend articles that describe the contents and/or status of the proposal, please send mail. Thanks in advance! <>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...rutgers!bellcore!ald1 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<> <>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alan Dickman, 201-699-4381 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<> <>>>>>>> Raritan River Software Center, RRC 1M-220 <<<<<<<<<> <>>>>> Bellcore, 444 Hoes Lane, Piscataway, N.J. 08854 <<<<<>
khiem@hpindda.HP.COM (Khiem Ho) (01/24/89)
/ hpindda:comp.protocols.iso / ald1@pyuxe.UUCP (Alan L Dickman) / 8:25 am Jan 20, 1989 / Can anyone tell me the status of of ISO DP 10154 (?) which is the draft proposal for a Remote Procedure Call mechanism. Was it adopted? If you can recommend articles that describe the contents and/or status of the proposal, please send mail. Thanks in advance! <>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...rutgers!bellcore!ald1 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<> <>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alan Dickman, 201-699-4381 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<> <>>>>>>> Raritan River Software Center, RRC 1M-220 <<<<<<<<<> <>>>>> Bellcore, 444 Hoes Lane, Piscataway, N.J. 08854 <<<<<> ---------- The current standards on ROSE are: CCITT X.219 and X.229 ISO 9072-1 and 9072-2 I know for sure CCITT already approved them last Oct. I don't know the results of ISO ballots (six month). And the two have (almost) identical text. Khiem Ho Hewlett-Packard
kmont@hpindda.HP.COM (Kevin Montgomery) (01/25/89)
/ hpindda:comp.protocols.iso / ald1@pyuxe.UUCP (Alan L Dickman) / 8:25 am Jan 20, 1989 / > Can anyone tell me the status of of ISO DP 10154 (?) > which is the draft proposal for a Remote Procedure > Call mechanism. Was it adopted? If you're talking about the fasttrack ECMA -> ISO proposal, I'd guess (note disclaimer), that the US voted no and Britain voted yes (probably with comments). How's that for an insightful piece of information? (I'd guess that means that overall the vote probably floundered along the 'no' lines)... kevin (speculating for himself only)
joey@geaclib.UUCP (Joey De Wiele) (01/27/89)
In article <5560012@hpindda.HP.COM>, khiem@hpindda.HP.COM (Khiem Ho) writes: >> / hpindda:comp.protocols.iso / ald1@pyuxe.UUCP (Alan L Dickman) / 8:25 am Jan 20, 1989 / >> Can anyone tell me the status of of ISO DP 10154 (?) >> which is the draft proposal for a Remote Procedure >> Call mechanism. Was it adopted? > > The current standards on ROSE are: > CCITT X.219 and X.229 > ISO 9072-1 and 9072-2 > > I know for sure CCITT already approved them last Oct. > I don't know the results of ISO ballots (six month). > And the two have (almost) identical text. > > Khiem Ho > Hewlett-Packard Someone at ISO is doing work on a specific Remote Procedure Call standard. This standard is NOT the ROSE standards referenced by Mr. HO. I believe the work is being driven by ECMA, but I am not sure. I know nothing of the standards beyond vague comments I heard at the SC 21 plenaryin Sydney. It sounds like RPC is similar in concept to ROSE, but I can't say for sure. ISO wouldn't be ISO unless work was replicated in different groups. Joey
pauld@tcom.stc.co.uk (Paul Davies) (02/03/89)
In article <3606@geaclib.UUCP> joey@geaclib.UUCP (Joey De Wiele) writes: > >Someone at ISO is doing work on a specific Remote Procedure Call >standard. This standard is NOT the ROSE standards referenced by Mr. HO. > >I believe the work is being driven by ECMA, but I am not sure. I know >nothing of the standards beyond vague comments I heard at the SC 21 >plenaryin Sydney. It sounds like RPC is similar in concept to ROSE, but >I can't say for sure. > >ISO wouldn't be ISO unless work was replicated in different groups. > >Joey ECMA are (were ?) doing work specifically on RPC using OSI Remote Operations. There is a separate spec to the X.219/229 (X.410 ?), it is titled : 'STANDARD ECMA-127, RPC BASIC REMOTE PROCEDURE CALL USING OSI REMOTE OPERATIONS' The spec I have is dated December 1987,I don't know what its status is within ISO but was told it would make DIS shortly and expected to make full IS within a year. But I've no idea how reliable that info is,for all I know it may already be DIS. You can receive a free copy of ECMA-127 by writing to : European Computer Manufacturers Association 114 Ru du Rhone - 1204 Geneva,Switzerland. If ISO have taken it on board,their version may be more up to date than the ECMA spec. I believe the ECMA RPC to be a proper subset of the Remote Operations (ISO 9072/1 and ISO 9072/2). It seems that the ECMA RPC has taken account of restrictions placed on application programmers by a lot of programming languages and so much of the 'baggage/richness' provided by the full Remote Operations is not included. For example, ECMA RPC is generally restricted to Remote Operations Operation Class 1,which I think means it only supports synchronous working (invoke and wait on result). To me it is easier reading than the ROS specs, there is even an RPC tutorial and guide for application protocol designers. Some extracts from the spec : 'The subject of this ECMA Standard is Remote Procedure Call (RPC) for open distributed processing, using the ISO 9072/1 and ISO 9072/2 Remote Operations notation, services and protocols. These OSI standards are used without change'. 'This ECMA Standard includes........that subset of Remote Operations which is consistent with programming language procedure call semantics'. Hope this helps Paul