jh@tut.fi (Hein{nen Juha) (10/20/89)
After reading the Gosip 2.0 document I got the impression that Intermediate Systems can only be connected together using either 802.x, X.25 or ISDN. Now the common practice to connect TCP/IP routers together is by point-to-point leased lines. How can Gosip 2.0 networks utilize point-to-point links? By running ISDN or X.25 over them? -- -- Juha Heinanen, Tampere Univ. of Technology, Finland jh@tut.fi (Internet), tut!jh (UUCP), jh@tut (Bitnet)
barns@GATEWAY.MITRE.ORG (Bill Barns) (10/24/89)
After I pestered Dallas Scott and Paul Tsuchiya about this, we checked some of the standards and concluded that the "right" OSI way for two IS's to talk over a point-to-point subnetwork (yes, such a link is a subnetwork!) when using ISO 8473 is to use a direct embedding in ISO 7776 (HDLC). This is described in ISO 8880-3 near the end of the document. We deem it an error of GOSIP 2.0 not to recognize this. Whether NIST agrees, we do not yet know. There are, of course, certain difficulties in using mixed ISO and non-ISO stacks in this environment. This problem conld be circumvented legally by using X.25, or deviously (but perhaps still legally) by assigning HDLC addresses for the non-OSI protocols that are other than the ones defined by ISO and CCITT for the "legitimate" uses of HDLC. At the moment, in the case of IP, you can also disambiguate on the first octet as you would do with the various OSI network layer protocols. Bill Barns / MITRE-Washington / barns@gateway.mitre.org