[comp.protocols.iso] System Titles

barns@GATEWAY.MITRE.ORG (06/05/90)

Some of you will recall a discussion a few months ago about OSI System
Titles (initiated by a question from me).  A short document was recently
brought to my attention; I've typed it in below for your convenience
(don't expect me to make a habit of this though).  This sheds some
light on the question of what a System Title looks like.

ALSO, it seems that SC21/WG1 has someone working on a document called
"PDTR xxxx - Information Technology - Open Systems Interconnection -
Tutorial on Naming and Addressing".  The copy I have was brought back
from Seoul by our local traveler/victim, and only has a Seoul document
number SC21/WG1 S 46.  I suppose it will get a real number.  This is a
rather nice document which explains many things that I had to learn
much more painfully.  About system titles, it says:

   A system-title is used to identify a real open system.  The system-title
   is a layer independent primitive name, i.e., it is used to identify a real
   open system as a whole.  A single real open system is named by one and
   only one system-title.  The system-title may be used in conjunction
   with other qualifiers to identify specific OSI resources in a real open
   system, i.e. it may be used as a basis to build structured names for
   objects in the given real open system - e.g. an application-process-title
   may be based on the system-title (with the addition of relevant
   qualifiers).

And here is the other document:

Date: March 1990
Title: Registration of system titles
Source: UK NB contribution to SC21/WG6, Seoul, May 1990

The UK notes that work in SC21/WG4 on the structure of management information
has demonstrated a need to make use of system titles in order to identify
managed systems.  This need is documented in an output document from the
editing meeting on DP 10165-1 (in Paris, January 190) entitled "names for
managed system managed objects"; this paper is to be allocated an SC21/WG4 
reference number.

Moreover, SC21/WG4 has identified a need for some means of system title
registration.

Consequently, the UK proposes that SC21/WG6 takes action to satisfy this
registration requirement.

As an initial contribution towards this work the UK makes the following
suggestions:

a) reliance should be placed on the general provisions of ISO 9834-1
   regarding the composition and allocation of system titles, rather than
   developing a separate Part of ISO 9834;

b) an amendment should be made to ISO 7498-3 (the Naming and Addressing
   Part of the OSI RM) that explains the approach to be taken for system
   title registration.

Notes:

1. As implied by (a), two forms of system title name should be permitted,
   a Directory RDN nameform and an Object Identifier nameform.

2. Point (b) is intended to satisfy the requirement implied by reliance
   on the general provisions of ISO 9834-1 for registration purposes.

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When I consider the above document in light of the philosophy espoused
in the Tutorial I referred to, it would seem that the RDN and OID forms
of the System Title of a particular Real Open System have to be thought
of as being one and the same System Title.  This naturally leads to the
question of which version ought to be used in the ASN.1 in various
contexts, and whether both forms need to be understood by entities.
For example, must an end system treat two A-ASSOCIATE-REQUESTs in the
same way if one uses an application-process-title based on the RDN
form and the other uses the corresponding OID form, or ...    Seems that
this is rather like the question about whether numeric and printable
string organization names should be recognized as equivalent in X.400...

/Bill Barns        barns@gateway.mitre.org