woods@ncar.ucar.edu (Greg Woods) (08/17/89)
I really hate this situation because I have been backed into a corner. No matter what I do I will get flamed by SOMEONE. So I'm going to try and do the impossible and please everyone. The original purpose of this group was to assist in the voting process for mainstream USENET groups. That is the proposal which was voted on and passed. This must be borne in mind when considering changes in the newsgroup charter. However, the results of the survey I have been taking are fairly clear by now. Since the opening gun, the responses are about 3.5 to 1 in favor of posting alternate hierarchy announcements here. Given that, it looks like I should do so (against my better judgment). But since it is a change in the charter, I am going to put some reasonable limits on it. These limits are based on both my personal feeling (I am the one doing the work, after all) and also on the comments of people on both sides of the issue which were mailed to me. So here is the new policy. Calls for discussion, calls for votes, and results of votes for mainstream USENET groups should continue to be posted here. Announcements of the creation of new groups in alternate hierarchies may be posted here with the following provisios: 1) They must be BRIEF. No more than a screenful. 2) They must be to the point, which means they must be announcements of a new group name and charter, nothing more. Postings which hawk the virtues of an alternate hierarchy or a new newsgroup will NOT be accepted (which will probably get me flamed too). Do NOT include subscription information in the announcement. Those wanting that information can reply by mail to the poster. That does not belong in this group. Before flaming this policy bear in mind that some of the alternate hierarchies we are talking about here will be subscription services, i.e. commercial networks. This policy is intended to prevent the posting of anything that could be considered a commercial ad in this group while still allowing the information that people want to see to be posted here. In other words, factual information is allowed even for commercial networks, advertising hype is not. 3) ONLY group announcements are allowed for alternate hierarchies. No calls for votes or anything to do with group creation procedures for alternate hierarchies will be allowed in this group. 4) Alternate hierarchies are, of course, under no obligation to announce group creations here. Similarly I am under no obligation to post annoncements here which appear in other places. So, only announcements explicitly posted to this group (or mailed to the submission address) will appear here. 5) Only alternate hierarchies available on UUNET will be accepted. That is an arbitrary restriction, but I do want to limit it to groups that are at least using the news transport mechanism, i.e. I want to exclude CompuServe and the like. 6) Only hierarchies theoretically available netwide will be accepted, i.e. announcements of groups in local distributions are not allowed in this group. Yes, I know things like "alt" groups don't go to Europe; but that is a policy decision made by the Europeans. They COULD get them if they wanted to. That's what I mean by "theoretically available". The intent of this rule is just to exclude local geographical distributions. In a futile attempt to satisfy everyone, the keyword "alternate" will appear in all postings of alternate hierarchy group creation announcements. Those who do not wish to see them may thus put /alternate/h:j into their KILL files. This policy will remain in effect as long as the group does not become swamped with alternate hierarchy announcements. In other words, for as long as posting such announcements does not seriously interfere with the original purpose of this group, which is to assist the voting process for mainstream groups. --Greg