rosalia@noether.UUCP (Mark Galassi) (05/02/89)
I found out that Silicon Graphics gives you the distribution of X
windows for free, but charges you a certain monthly amount (in our
case $15/month).
Here is what I was wondering:
1. can one get the tape and not the support, thus not having access
to the hotline etc?
OR
2. does the X distribution from MIT have the drivers and other
special things for the personal IRIS?
If either of these were the case, we would be willing to get X
without the support from SGI.
Thank you very much,
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Mark Galassi
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rosalia@noether.UUCP rosalia@noether.sunysb.edu les@unicads.UUCP (Les Milash) (05/02/89)
In article <237@noether.UUCP> rosalia@noether.UUCP (Mark Galassi) writes: >I found out that Silicon Graphics gives you the distribution of X >windows for free, but charges you a certain monthly amount (in our >case $15/month). speaking for myself only { we're using the MIT stuff, with some patches that were supposedly authored by SGI folks that our sysop ftp'd down from some machine at MIT, and it doesn't exactly seem "X compilant" to me. largely, but the differences don't look like they're gonna be one-line changes to fix. that's with the 4D-70G as the server. using it on the client side with a "known good" server, things are fine, and of course those R2000's are quick application servers. but man! when it does work does it ever work fast!!! BraVo! Running an app on a Sun4 with a 4D drawing your lines! Yes yes! } if anybody (from SGI?) can tell me that it's cause i'm stupid and there's some better version i ought to be using PLEASE DO SO. Les Milash Unicad Inc. 303-443-6961
eap@bu-cs.BU.EDU (Eric Pearce) (05/03/89)
I just installed the X source tape we got from SGI. I don't know if
we are paying for it or not. It seems to have the same problems as
the one I got off expo.lcs.mit.edu, but I can't verify that they are
the same at the moment. When compiling the server, it will complain
about a missing "/usr/include/bitmap.h" when doing the "server/ddx/sgi/4d"
directory. I managed to get this file from someone who had an older
release of IRIX (still 3.1 though) on their IRIS personal.
Some other things you need to fix are:
server/ddx/sgi/4d/sgigl.c & sgiio.c change "WINSHUT" to "WINCLOSE"
clients/xinit/xinit.c - It could not find "setpriority"
clients/xdm/daemon.c - use the bsd'ish "(void) ioctl (i, TIOCNOTTY,0)"
instead of "(void) ioctl(i, TIOCTTY, &zero)"
also was missing "sys/ptyio.h".
I'll put these in a patch file when I get them all together, but
that should be enough to get you going for the moment.
It looks like I got farther than the person who made the sgi tape,
as they still had these errors in their log file from when they
installed it.
I was rather disappointed in it once I got it running. This is on
an IRIS "power series" GT and it was slower than a Sun 3/50 for most
of the clients and demos. "ico" runs at a good clip, but that's
about it. The server seems to crap out often. I also had problems
with resizing the windows. I found it useful to be able to xterm
into it from my Sun though.
If anybody has a "fast" X11R3 running on their Sgi, I would like to
hear about it.
(In all fairness, I have not asked SGI about these problems yet).
-e
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617-353-2780 voice 617-353-6260 fax BITNET ep@buengamah@hpuviea.UUCP (Michael Haberler) (05/03/89)
From article <237@noether.UUCP>, by rosalia@noether.UUCP (Mark Galassi): > I found out that Silicon Graphics gives you the distribution of X > windows for free, but charges you a certain monthly amount (in our > case $15/month). I think the worldwide transmission cost for your query would cover a couple of years of SGI support. Go sign up. :-) -michael -- Michael Haberler mah@hpuviea.uucp Hewlett-Packard Austria GmbH, ...mcvax!tuvie!hpuviea!mah Lieblgasse 1 ...hplabs!hpbbn!hpuviea!mah A-1220 Vienna, Austria Tel: (0043) (222) 2500 x412 (9-18 CET)
msc@ramoth.SGI.COM (Mark Callow) (05/06/89)
In article <237@noether.UUCP>, rosalia@noether.UUCP (Mark Galassi) writes: > I found out that Silicon Graphics gives you the distribution of X > windows for free, but charges you a certain monthly amount (in our > case $15/month). > As far as I know the $15 is for support. > Here is what I was wondering: > > 1. can one get the tape and not the support, thus not having access > to the hotline etc? Ask your salesman or customer support. > > OR > > 2. does the X distribution from MIT have the drivers and other > special things for the personal IRIS? Yes and no. The X distribution has a verson of the drivers for SGI. However the product quality X we are on the verge of releasing (in Irix 4D1-3.1G) is very different and very much superior. We have put a lot of work into it and it runs anywhere from 5 to 100 times faster than the stuff we contributed to the MIT tape last November. It also has several hundred official patches and other bug fixes. -- -Mark