SY.CHRISTINE@CU20B.COLUMBIA.EDU (Christine M Gianone) (06/24/87)
Info-Kermit Digest Wed, 24 Jun 1987 Volume 6 : Number 13 Today's Topics: Kermit Paper Newsletter V1 #2 QK-KERMIT Version 2.7 Tek4010 Emulation New Commodore Kermit (version 2.0) files DECmate CP/M Kermit fixes F11 & 12 on new AT keyboards Announcing MS-DOS Kermit 2.29C Bugs in Apollo Kermit 2.8 Bug in Mac Kermit 0.8(034) Using 2-byte Checksums Kermit with Tek emulation (MSTIBT.*) Missing files for Apple II UCSD Kermit? Apple 2e/CPM/Kermit? Kermit for HPUX 5.1? Unix Kermit in Background? HP-150 Kermit? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon 15 Jun 87 12:21:33-EDT From: Christine M Gianone <SY.CHRISTINE@CU20B.COLUMBIA.EDU> Subject: Kermit Paper Newsletter V1 #2 Keywords: Kermit Paper Newsletter The Kermit Distribution group at Columbia University Center for Computing Activities are in the process of preparing V1 #2 of the Kermit Newsletter (V1 #1 appeared last July). In addition to giving the non-network-connected world news about the latest Kermit versions, we'd also like to publish some articles from Kermit users all over the world who are putting Kermit to good (and possibly interesting or unusual) uses. We would be especially interested in stories about how Kermit is used to somehow benefit humanity (or other creatures), or to foster international cooperation, to make life easier for the disabled, etc etc. For many, Kermit is used for mundane purposes like saving money. We'd like to hear about that too. Although we distribute Kermit programs to thousands of sites, and probably millions of users, we get very little feedback on how Kermit is actually used. We'd like to get this kind of news in any form, at any time, but if you'd like to see it published in the Kermit Newsletter, please send it soon, and keep the article fairly short (say 100-500 words). Also, if anyone has any semi-technical general-interest contributions to make, e.g. using Kermit over LANs, or through public networks, etc, these would also be most welcome. Whether you wish to contribute or not, you can be added to the subscriber list by sending your mailing address to Info-Kermit@CU20B, or to Kermit Newsletter, Columbia University, 612 West 115th Street, New York, NY 10025 USA. This process won't be necessary if you received the first issue, or if you've ever ordered Kermit material from us by mail, in which cases you're already on the list. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Jun 87 11:29 EDT From: VIC%QUCDN.BITNET@wiscvm.wisc.edu Subject: QK-KERMIT Version 2.7 Tek4010 Emulation Keywords: QK-Kermit An updated version of QK-KERMIT v2.7 which provides tek4010 emulation is now available. This version does not require the use of Turbo Graphic toolbox and it does not require overlays. Most of the problems, questions and difficulty in using QK-kermit 2.6 were related to the toolbox and overlays, so this should mean v2.7 should be a much easier simpler version to implement and use. Only the CGA version is ready. Hercules and EGA versions will be coming later. Victor Lee (613)-545-2033 bitnet : VIC@QUCDN [Ed. - Thanks, Victor! The new release is in KER:QK*.* on CU20B, available with anonymous FTP, and on CUVMA as QK* * for BITNET KERMSRV access. The new release includes IBM PC and Kaypro II support, Apple II support will come a bit later.] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jun 87 23:31:14 EST From: "Ray Moody" <aij@j.cc.purdue.edu> Subject: New Commodore Kermit (version 2.0) files Keywords: Commodore Kermit Two new files have been submited to CU20B for distribution. C64V2.HEX is the hex file that everyone has been waiting for! It can be de-hexed with C64DXL, which is the same program that de-hexes Kermit1.7. Instructions are available in section 4.3 of C64KER.DOC. C64V2.INI is a basic program that can be run to create a kermit.ini file that will work with Kermit version 2.0. Most version 1.7 init files will work with kermit V2, however, there are some that will not. As always, I welcome suggestions for improvements and bug reports. Ray Moody ihnp4!pur-ee!j.cc.purdue.edu!aij aij@j.cc.purdue.edu moody@purccvm.BITNET [Ed. - Thanks Ray! These files have been put in KER:C64V2.HEX and KER:C64V2.INI available using FTP to CU20B, user ANONYMOUS (any password) or through BITNET using KERMSRV. This message is in KER:C64V2.HLP.] ------------------------------ Date: 16 Jun 87 15:43:21 From: Charles J. Lasner (OC.LASNER@CU20B) Subject: DECmate CP/M Kermit fixes Keywords: DECmate Kermit The latest version of KERMIT-80 for the DECMATE II, III, III-PLUS version of CP/M-80 (version 4.05) will not properly work when attempting a connection between the DECMATE and a remote half-duplex KERMIT such as CMS-KERMIT. This is due to the default action of the 6120 processor within the DECMATE which does all i/o for the Z80. All occurrences of XON/XOFF (aka <^S>/<^Q> or DC1/DC3) are eaten by the 6120 for flow control purposes which is normally not a problem. When connected to a half-duplex KERMIT such as CMS-KERMIT, the XON (<^Q>) character is used to formally turn around the line. Since the 6120 absorbs all such characters, KERMIT-80 hangs when attempting this (retrying with <CR> will actually work slowly!). a/o this writing, this problem also exists with DECMATE II MS-DOS KERMIT, so a work-around is imperative. A partial fix is available in the files: CP4DMF.ASM, .HEX, and CP4DMU.ASM, .HEX. Each program comes with a short help (.HLP) file to explain its operation. [Ed. - Thanks, Charles! The new files are installed in KER:CP4DMF.* and KER:CP4DMU.* on CU20B for anonymous FTP access, and also on CUVMA for BITNET KERMSRV access (as CP4DMF * and CP4DMU *).] ------------------------------ Date: Thu 18 Jun 1987 18:43:27 CDT From: Mark S. Zinzow <Markz@Uiucvmd> Subject: F11 & 12 on new AT keyboards Keywords: MS-DOS Kermit The program to activate scan codes in the Info-IBMPC Digest V6#45 works fine with MS-Kermit 2.29B in allowing the definition of function keys F11 and F12. If you don't already subscribe to I-IBMPC on our listserv, you can find the digest on LISTSERV 193 in the file I-IBMPC 87-00052. The digest entry is self explanatory, but for those who find downloading easier than debug or MASM, I've put F11F12.COM on our kermit disk in binary form. I would suggest executing F11F12 in your AUTOEXEC.BAT file so that it's always installed when you wish to run kermit. Then all you need to do is modify your 7171KEYS.DEF file. Here is an example that I've tacked on the end of mine (7171ADD F11 on the kermit disk): ; ; Additional definitions for use with F11F12.COM ; PF11 assigned to F11 set key scan 133 \033- ; PF12 assigned to F12 set key scan 134 \033= ; PF21 assigned to shift F11 set key scan 647 \033o ; PF22 assigned to shift F12 set key scan 648 \033p Some of you may prefer to redefine all the shift codes to PF13-PF24, but I prefer to remain consistent with the 10 key definitions. [Ed. - Thanks! The Kermit key definition mechanism will change in the forthcoming release (2.30 -- see next message), but the mechanism for activating the F11 and F12 keys may still be useful.] ------------------------------ Date: Mon 15 Jun 87 12:21:33-EDT From: Christine M Gianone <SY.CHRISTINE@CU20B.COLUMBIA.EDU> Subject: Announcing MS-DOS Kermit 2.29C Keywords: MS-DOS Kermit 2.29C MS-DOS Kermit 2.29C is now available for testing on the IBM PC, Zenith 100/200, the NEC APC III, HP-150, HP-110 and Portable Plus (untested), and Grid Compass (also untested). A generic version is also available. The .BOO files are in KER:MST*.BOO and descriptions of the updates can be found in MSR29C.UPD. The sources are not yet available because they are still undergoing last-minute revisions. Thanks to Joe Doupnik of Utah State University for all his time and effort. Please test this version on your system and report the results, so that we might be able to announce MS-DOS 2.30 soon. ------------------------------ Date: 8-JUN-1987 14:20:28 From: JDLee1@UK.AC.LOUGHBOROUGH.MULTICS Via: SYSKERMIT%vax1.central.lancaster.ac.uk@Cs.Ucl.AC.UK Subject: Bugs in Apollo Kermit 2.8 Two problems/bugs that I have come across with apollo kermit 2.8 First, the apollo seems to store ascii files with just a newline between records, and apollo kermit 2.8 does not map newline into CR LF when sending files. However it does the correct translation when receiving files. Second, apollo kermit 2.8 does not correctly implement 8 bit prefixing. If the other system says that it cannot 8 bit prefix it puts an N in the packet in place of the 8 bit prefix character requested by apollo 2.8 This is wrongly interpreted by apollo kermit as a request to use the N character as the prefix character with the result that all N characters in the file become Control-N at the destination file. Tim Lee Pafec Ltd, Strelley Hall, Strelley, Nottingham phone 0602 390649 ext 556 [Ed. - Thanks for the report. It's been added to the "beware file" for Apollo Kermit. Any volunteers to fix and test it?] ------------------------------ Date: 10-JUN-1987 17:35:59 From: DB_WILSON@UK.AC.OPEN.ACS.VAX Subject: Bug in Mac Kermit 0.8(034) Using 2-byte Checksums Keywords: MacKermit I have found a problem using Macintosh Kermit with two byte checksums when the data packet can have bytes with the eighth bit set. The resulting checksum is consistent with such bytes being negative in the range -128 to -1, i.e. bytes are treated as signed -128..127 rather than unsigned 0..255. The Kermit book makes it clear (c.f. page 224) that the latter is correct. The workaround is easy - don't use two byte checksums for binary files. Regards, David. [Ed. - Thanks for the report, which we've added to the Mac Kermit "beware file." The problem will be looked at in the next release of C-Kermit.] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Jun 87 14:09 EDT From: Walter Bourne <WMBSC@CUVMA> Subject: Kermit with Tek emulation (MSTIBT.*) Keywords: Tek Emulation I have run into two problems with the Tek emulation. The first is that it displays certain characters meant as padding. SAS/Graph, for instance, sends a string of ^V's (hex 16) after the clear command. These appear as small blocks half the normal character height across the top of the page. The bell SAS rings at the end of the plot is also displayed as a triangle pointing right. There are sometimes what looks like part of a Tek vector command printed in the upper left after the bell. The second problem is that it loses some data when filling large areas solidly at higher baud rates (over 1800). SAS, running on an IBM CMS system, apparently uses no handshaking and the close spacing of the vectors doesn't allow the program to catch up during the move portion of the command???? Walter Bourne, Ass't Director Center for the Social Sciences 420 West 118 St., Rm 814 SIA New York, NY 10027 Tel: 212-280-3038 [Ed. - Thanks for the report, Walter. It's been forwarded to the developers and added to the (previously nonexistent) MSTIBT.BWR file.] ------------------------------ Date: 17-JUN-1987 11:23:37 From: SYSKERMIT%vax1.central.lancaster.ac.uk@Cs.Ucl.AC.UK Subject: Missing files for Apple II UCSD Kermit? Keywords: Apple II Kermit We need a version of UCSD Kermit on an Apple II for getting some files off an Apple II onto a PC Clone. I've downloaded the sources, but can't track down a copy of SYSTEM.ATTACH and ATTACHUD. Do you have these, or does anyone know where they can be obtained? Chris Murphy Computer Centre Oxford Polytechnic [Ed. - Any users of UCSD Pascal Kermit on the Apple II out there who can help?] ------------------------------ Date: 15 Jun 87 19:48:08 GMT From: samples@renoir.Berkeley.EDU (A. Dain Samples) Subject: Apple 2e/CPM/Kermit? Keywords: Apple II Kermit I am having trouble getting kermit running. Any help would be appreciated. My hardware configuration is * Officially enhanced Apple 2e * PCPI ``Starcard'' (Applicard) with Z80B * Hayes Smartmodems (I have access to the 1200 and the 2400) * SuperSerial Card I got kermit off the simtel20 PD archives PD:<CPM.MODEM>CP405HEX.ARK (thanks much to those who spend their time [and money?] keeping these archives open!). Using the accompanying instructions I configured kermit for the ``generic'' CP/M system using the IOBYTE. Much to my surprise, it was able to talk to the modem on the first try! (Magic is always surprising.) Much to my disappointment, characters are being dropped. I cannot seem to get the Hayes modem into its ``monitor'' mode to set registers, autodial, etc., and not every character I type at the keyboard is being echoed, and not every character I type make the geblinken lights on the modem light up. It looks like some sort of handshake or speed problem between the PCPI system software and the SSC. At first I thought the Hayes and the Super Serial Card were trying to talk at different baud rates, but a lot of messing around and writing test programs convinced me this is not what is happening. E.g., the SSC and the modem work fine under SmartTerm, but then they don't under kermit. I thought maybe the Hayes Smartmodem 2400 was not being initialized properly under kermit, so I tried the Hayes 1200 under kermit, and it experiences the same problem. I want to use kermit under CP/M since SmarTerm requires a re-boot and wipes out my AE RamWorks ramdisk. Any help would be much appreciated! What am I missing? Is there a Kermit configuration overlay specifically for my configuration? Mail to samples@berkeley.edu. If there is sufficient interest, I will post a summary. Thanks in advance, Dain A. Dain Samples, 573 Evans, UC Berkeley, samples@arpa.berkeley.edu (All opinions expressed herein are mine, and do not reflect the opinions of anyone that does not want them to.) ------------------------------ Date: 15 Jun 87 19:09:02 GMT From: rochester!steinmetz!ebstokes@vdsvax..arpa (Stokes Edward B) Subject: Kermit for HPUX 5.1? Keywords: HPUX, Kermit We have an HP 9836 (Series 200) microcomputer which is running HPUX 5.1 (hp's flavor of unix, basically system V). We would like to have a cheap reliable interface to an Ultrix VAX via an existing RS232 line. CU works OK, but doesn't do even the most simplistic checking of files that are transferred. Does anyone have any experience with HPUX Kermit ? It does not have the familiar "server" mode which is available in most versions, consequently we've not had much luck making it work. Thanks in advance. Ed Stokes ebstokes@ge-crd.arpa [Ed. - Regular C-Kermit 4D(061) is said to work under HP-UX if you build it with the "sys5" option. However, it lacks support for some of the HP 9836 specific features, some of which may appear in the next release.] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jun 87 11:40:38 PDT From: dbercel@Sun.COM (Danielle Bercel, MIS Systems Programming) Subject: Unix Kermit in Background? Keywords: C-Kermit Is anyone aware how to run Unix Kermit in the background? The version we have here seems to want tty access and even though the commands are coming from a script we cannot run it in the background. Any suggestions? danielle UUCP: {hplabs,decvax,}!sun!toto!{danielle,dbercel} COM: dbercel%toto@sun.com ARPA: dbercel@sun.arpa [Ed. - The -q option, given on the command line, is intended to "quiesce" the tty and allow the program to run in the background, when invoked with a "&" on the end of the command line.] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jun 87 14:10 EST From: Mark B. Johnson Subject: HP-150 Kermit? Keywords: HP-150 Kermit Could anyone be so kind as to send us the HP 150 version of MS-Kermit on diskette? We cannot transfer anything to the one here on campus due to an outdated BASIC. We would be ever so grateful ... Mark Johnson Univ. of Notre Dame [Ed. - This is a popular request. Does anyone know of an HP User Group that we could submit a Kermit diskette to for distribution. In the near future, there is a possibility that Kermit Distribution at Columbia will be able to provide this service, but until then...... ??] ------------------------------ End of Info-Kermit Digest ************************* -------