dj@dorsai.cognet.ucla.edu (David J. Wells) (08/30/88)
I would like to know more about OS9. What good, technical literature is available? Specifically, I want information on OS9 ports to in the 68XXX family or other 32 bit processors. Topics of interest include memory management, devices, new machine ports, and windowing environments. Also, where can I get a list of OS9 products on the market (i.e. good magazines to browse for ads, or an OS9 product summary)? thanks, dj David J Wells dj@cs.ucla.edu w213/206-3960 David J Wells dj@cs.ucla.edu w213/206-3960
jejones@mcrware.UUCP (James Jones) (08/30/88)
In article <15602@shemp.CS.UCLA.EDU>, dj@dorsai.cognet.ucla.edu (David J. Wells) writes: > I would like to know more about OS9. What good, technical literature is > available? > > Also, where can I get a list of OS9 products on the market (i.e. good > magazines to browse for ads, or an OS9 product summary)? I'd better bracket this with disclaimers...the following is purely my very own opinions, up close and personal, with no correlation with any organization other than those cells that comprise (or is it "constitute?") my body. The books I've seen out so far on OS-9 have tended to be on OS-9/6809. In fact, there may well be more books on OS-9 in French or Japanese than in English! There is always the route of buying a copy of the manuals, though. Microware also has a hardware and software vendor directory. You should give them a call for details. Magazines? Well...a few years back I'd have recommended *68 Micro Journal* strongly. I can't recommend it strongly any more; though it does have an OS-9 column, nowadays the magazine is largely a catalog for Southeast Media, which sells software for OS-9/6809, OS-9/68000, and FLEX and its clone SK*DOS. The only other English-language magazine I know of that regularly covers OS-9 is *Rainbow*, a Tandy Color Computer magazine (so that the cover- age is essentially all OS-9/6809), but even for 6809 users, one has to decide whether it's worth buying a magazine mostly filled with illegible spaghetti BASIC listings of games for the amount of OS-9 coverage therein (not to mention putting up with occasional ignorant OS-9-bashing). There may well be others, though, outside the US. There is the OS-9 User Group newsletter, of course. You should consider joining the UG. For information, OS-9 User Group Suite R-237 1715 East Fowler Avenue Tampa FL 33612 USA The main mention of OS-9 in the US you'll see aside from the above is in such magazines as *Electronic Design*; there has recently been a burst of articles on "UniBridge," a package for cross-development and C source-level debugging across Ethernet from Unix to OS-9/68000 systems (and on the OS-9 system directly, of course), and you'll see a fair number of references to VME systems (or Gespac's G-64 bus systems--Gespac, BTW, has a glossy magazine that has a certain amount of OS-9 coverage; I'm not sure how one goes about subscribing, though) as running OS-9. Once one gets out of the US and at least somewhat out from under the IBM religion, it's easier to find publications that mention OS-9. The Japanese OS-9 User Group has a professional-looking (though short) magazine on glossy paper (though I should not slight the aforementioned User Group newsletter, *MOTD*, which is looking *very* good thanks to its editor Bill Brady). Japanese magazines such as *My Computer* and *Interface* evidently refer to OS-9 a fair amount. Despite the length of this message, I've certainly not done a thorough search myself, and I hope that others will fill in gaps I've left, particularly the active group of OS-9 users in Europe. (Just a reminder--any opinions here are mine, all mine.) James Jones
anderss@uplog.se (Anders Sjolund) (08/31/88)
David, I tried to mail, but couldn't reach the recipient, so this goes to the net: In article <15602@shemp.CS.UCLA.EDU> dj@dorsai.cognet.ucla.edu.UUCP (David J. Wells) writes: > >I would like to know more about OS9. What good, technical literature is >available? Specifically, I want information on OS9 ports to in the 68XXX >family or other 32 bit processors. Topics of interest include memory >management, devices, new machine ports, and windowing environments. > >Also, where can I get a list of OS9 products on the market (i.e. good >magazines to browse for ads, or an OS9 product summary)? I'm also interested in this kind of info on OS9/68k. Do you think you could post a summary of your responses to the net (or mail it to me) ? AdvThanksance /anderss@uplog.se -- Real life: Anders Sjolund Email: anderss@uplog.se Snail mail: TeleLOGIC Uppsala AB Phone: +46 18 189409 POB 1218 S - 751 42 Uppsala, Sweden
rick@gtisqr.UUCP (Rick Groeneveld) (09/02/88)
In article <733@mcrware.UUCP>, jejones@mcrware.UUCP (James Jones) writes: > Magazines? Well...a few years back I'd have recommended *68 Micro Journal* > strongly. I can't recommend it strongly any more; though it does have an > OS-9 column, nowadays the magazine is largely a catalog for Southeast Media, > which sells software for OS-9/6809, OS-9/68000, and FLEX and its clone > SK*DOS. The only other English-language magazine I know of that regularly I used to subscribe to 68 Micro Journal. The last time I moved, I sent them a change of address notice. They ignored it. I sent another. They ignored that one too. I sent them my new address every month for the next eight months and they never once sent my magazines to the right address! They did manage to send the renewal notices to the right place, but the magazines kept going to the old address. H. Groeneveld
bdw@rwing.UUCP (Brian Wright) (09/05/88)
In article <15602@shemp.CS.UCLA.EDU>, dj@dorsai.cognet.ucla.edu (David J. Wells) writes: > > Also, where can I get a list of OS9 products on the market (i.e. good > magazines to browse for ads, or an OS9 product summary)? David, I don't own a 68K system, but rather, a Tandy Color Computer 3 running OS-9 Level 2. The only reading material out is either "The Rainbow Guide to OS-9", by Dale Puckett and Peter Dibble. A lot of what's explained is very relavent to 68K, since some of the commands in Level 1/2, are available for 68K OS-9, although with some differences. The only OS-9 products out are for the Tandy Color Computer, and I don'T think that there's a heckuva lot available for the 68K world yet. The Atari ST is the only low cost micro with a 68K chip that has a version of OS-9 68K for it. I've checked Byte magazine, but they don't have any ads for OS-9 products. UNIX world might, and I don't think the Computer Shopper even has ads for ANY OS-9 engines. Which is a shame, because I feel that OS-9 is far superior to MS-DOS and OS/2. Good luck on finding the material you need! -- Brian Wright UUCP: {backbones}!uw-beaver!tikal!toybox!rwing!bdw " "!camco!eskimo!bdw "I'd buy that for a dollar!" --Robocop
jejones@mcrware.UUCP (James Jones) (09/07/88)
In article <349@rwing.UUCP>, bdw@rwing.UUCP (Brian Wright) writes: > The only OS-9 products out are for the Tandy Color Computer, and I don'T > think that there's a heckuva lot available for the 68K world yet. The > Atari ST is the only low cost micro with a 68K chip that has a version > of OS-9 68K for it. I've checked Byte magazine, but they don't have > any ads for OS-9 products. UNIX world might, and I don't think the > Computer Shopper even has ads for ANY OS-9 engines. It is most definitely *not* the case that the only OS-9 products out are for the Tandy Color Computer. Call Microware and ask for a hardware and software vendor directory. "There are more products in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in BYTE and Computer Shopper..." :-)**3 James Jones
jec@nesac2.UUCP (John Carter ATLN SADM) (09/09/88)
In article <349@rwing.UUCP>, bdw@rwing.UUCP (Brian Wright) writes: > In article <15602@shemp.CS.UCLA.EDU>, dj@dorsai.cognet.ucla.edu (David J. Wells) writes: ] ] ] ] Also, where can I get a list of OS9 products on the market (i.e. good ] ] magazines to browse for ads, or an OS9 product summary)? ] ] ] David, I don't own a 68K system, but rather, a Tandy Color Computer 3 ] running OS-9 Level 2. The only reading material out is either ] "The Rainbow Guide to OS-9", by Dale Puckett and Peter Dibble. A lot of ] what's explained is very relavent to 68K, since some of the commands ] in Level 1/2, are available for 68K OS-9, although with some differences. ] ] The only OS-9 products out are for the Tandy Color Computer, and I don'T ] think that there's a heckuva lot available for the 68K world yet. The ] Atari ST is the only low cost micro with a 68K chip that has a version ] of OS-9 68K for it. I've checked Byte magazine, but they don't have ] any ads for OS-9 products. UNIX world might, and I don't think the ] Computer Shopper even has ads for ANY OS-9 engines. Which is a shame, ] because I feel that OS-9 is far superior to MS-DOS and OS/2. ] Good luck on finding the material you need! ] ] ] -- ] Brian Wright ] UUCP: {backbones}!uw-beaver!tikal!toybox!rwing!bdw ] " "!camco!eskimo!bdw ] "I'd buy that for a dollar!" --Robocop Microware publishes (or at least did publish) a list of software available for OS9 and OS9 68K computers. There ARE OS9 computers out there, but you probably have never heard of the brands. Frank Hogg Labs sells some very powerful 68K machines, and OS9 software for both 68xx and 68xxx machines. Try contacting James Jones at Microware ...uunet!mcrware!jejones I live in a world of UNIX and MSDOS, but I LIKE OS9. I used my CoCo running OS9 Level 1 to check out a disk drive that couldn't talk to the disk controller in an MSDOS box. OS9 let me format and use the drive as 35 track single-sided up through 80 track double-sided just by changing the device descriptor. You know about loadable device drivers - it's a marvelous NEW feature in version 3 of MSDOS - but OS9 has had it for years... -- USnail: John Carter, AT&T, Atlanta RWC, 3001 Cobb Parkway, Atlanta GA 30339 Video: ...att!nesac2!jec Voice: 404+951-4642 The machine belongs to the company. The opinions are mine.
jejones@mcrware.UUCP (James Jones) (09/13/88)
In article <1226@nesac2.UUCP>, jec@nesac2.UUCP (John Carter ATLN SADM) writes: > Try contacting James Jones at Microware ...uunet!mcrware!jejones Not to be a yenta, but...it really is best to *not* contact me, but instead to contact the folks who know what's what. (I'm just a humble techie. :-) The way to do that is to mail to mcrware!mcrware, or to call or write. James Jones