[comp.os.os9] Help!

-Yosemite Sam,_Roger Rabbit_) (11/11/88)

	i've been having some trouble with os9 level two lately.the first
	problem is with runb.when an i-code module name is typed,os9 should
	use runb to execute it.this works fine if runb and the i-code module
	are both in the same block of memory.even if they both are in memory,
	if they aren't in the same block i get an error#43(unknown procedure).
	anybody got any ideas?
	has anybody out there tried making their own icons for multi-vue? i'm
	kind of confused from the manuals description.it says to use a 24 by
	24 bitmap,but that's about it.

							vern

jejones@mcrware.UUCP (James Jones) (11/11/88)

In article <8811102323.AA03751@decwrl.dec.com>, burke_vern@dneast.dec.com (Mah biscuits 're burnin'!-Yosemite Sam,_Roger Rabbit_) writes:
> [description of circumstances in which an error 43 occurs]

I have not run into this myself, but what others have found is that sometimes
an error 43 will occur when a procedure either can't be loaded into memory
for lack of room, or, in the Level Two case, can't be mapped into the address
space of the process running RunB.  You should look at the memory requirements
of the procedures you are running.

> 	has anybody out there tried making their own icons for multi-vue?

Yes--I have made a few icons, though I must admit I sort of cheated, because
I used an icon editor.  There are several floating around; the thing to do
is probably to post a uuencoded or CUTS encoded file with one of them (once
I make sure it's kosher).

		James Jones

knudsen@ihlpl.ATT.COM (Knudsen) (11/12/88)

Runb is extremely buggy as far as finding modules.
My own experience is that runb will start to execute
a packed Basic09 program, but when that program tries to
call one of the machine-code procedures (INKEY, GFX2,
or SYSCALL), runb can't find it, even tho it's already loaded
into memory.  Maybe you're right about the same-block business,
tho I wonder why L2 would be mixed up over that.

Sad to say, I have given up entirely on Runb and use Basic09
for my own programs.  If someone gave me a packed program I would
just hope and pray it didn't use any of the machine code procedures,
but without them a program isn't much fun or use.
(I bought The Wiz, a Runb program, but haven't tried it yet and
now I know yet another reason not to bother with it.)

A year ago on Delphi they discussed ways to fool Runb into working
more or less, but I forget the details.  Maybe it's time to
reopen the wound.
-- 
Mike Knudsen  Bell Labs(AT&T)   att!ihlpl!knudsen
"Lawyers are like nuclear bombs and PClones.  Nobody likes them,
but the other guy's got one, so I better get one too."

rcoem@yabbie.rmit.oz (Peter Milway) (11/12/88)

   Could somebody please help me, I've just gone and totally destroyed
 the osterm comms package, and guess what! no backups of it.  And this
 was before I have even had a chance to use it.  So if some nice person
 could email me the files that were recently posted, I would be most
 obliged.

Thanks in advance for any help,

Regards Peter Milway,


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msm@vpnet.UUCP (Matt Minogue) (01/31/90)

   Excuse my ignorance.  I am an MS-DOS user (don't crucify me!) and have a
friend who plays with OS/9.  It all seems rather interesting and UNIX like. 
The only computer I've seen it run on, however, is a 68B09E CoCo 3 (ie: VERY
slow).  What I'd like to know is the types of computers (and Uprocessors)
you are running OS/9, OSK, and OS/9000 (oh, and the relative price of those
computers.) BTW, what is the difference between OS/9, OSK, and OS9000? 
Thanks in advance...

njc@nsscb.UUCP (Neil Cherry) (02/03/90)

There are alot of different machines, example a CoCo I, CoCo II, or CoCo III
which is cheap in price. Next on the 6809 front is a gimix ghost which runs
about $6000 (at least the one I used to work with did) but that allows you
to have multiple terminals. That clas of machines run OS9 level I or II (the
9 is for 6809). Now I own 1 sardis ST2900 running os9 level I it cost about
$500 for 3 floppies a case power supply and OS9. I also have a PT68K machine
running OSK (68000 cpu know also as a 68K processor) it has 4 serial ports
an IBM mono monitor and IBM XT keyboard it runs OSK 2.3 it cost about $1500
it has a meg of ram. I like this machine a lot. I've also worked on a PEP
VME 2000 a $10,000 system with hard drives floppies 13 serial ports and 5
parallel ports also a lot of other "neat stuff" it runs 2.2 its one of my
favorites. Finally OS9000 is a generic package available for 386 PC machines
and various 68K family machines. So for OS9 is for 6809's CPU's, OSK is for
68K family processors, and OS9000 is for 386 processors and 68K processors.
Prices will vary from machine to machine depending on its capabilities.
NJC

es@polari.UUCP (Erich Sweaney) (02/03/90)

In article <25c697a7:60comp.os.os9@vpnet.UUCP>, msm@vpnet.UUCP (Matt Minogue) writes:
> 
>    Excuse my ignorance.  I am an MS-DOS user (don't crucify me!) and have a
> friend who plays with OS/9.  It all seems rather interesting and UNIX like. 
> The only computer I've seen it run on, however, is a 68B09E CoCo 3 (ie: VERY
> slow).  What I'd like to know is the types of computers (and Uprocessors)
> you are running OS/9, OSK, and OS/9000 (oh, and the relative price of those
> computers.) BTW, what is the difference between OS/9, OSK, and OS9000? 
> Thanks in advance...


Subject: Re: Help!
Newsgroups: comp.os.os9
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   Hi. I am a CoCo 3 OS-9 Level II 512k User. And the 68b09e for the CoCo 3 is coompared to the MS/Dos 286/386 the same speeed. The 68b09e matches the 206/386
by cycles. It takes 286/386 4 cycles to do a command, while it takes the 68b09e 2cycles to do the same thing. Since the 68b09e is a more efficient microproccessor it can compete with the 286/386, but 286/386 is faster, so the ineffieceint code does not matter. So, the CoCo 3 and the 286/386 would tie in a race. Pretty interesting stuff, huh? We'll talk to you later, Bye..