StG@hummer.iupui.edu (Scott Griepentrog) (07/18/90)
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o Differences between OS9 and OSK
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*---------------------------------------------------------------------*StG@hummer.iupui.edu (Scott Griepentrog) (07/20/90)
>From: daver!cheers!greg@decwrl.dec.com (Greg Onufer) > >Commercial offers are in *very* bad taste on Usenet. Please post an >apology. > >Cheers, >Greg Onufer I hereby apolgize for offering to the OS9 community what it has so badly wanted (their own magazine) for so long, and even with the first copy free to boot! And thanks to those of you who have replied via mail with your addresses, I will be getting your copy out in the mail right away. StG p.s. mailing address to me is o.k. - mail is safer, but slower...
dev@ei.ecn.purdue.edu (Larry Weeks) (07/20/90)
In article <1990Jul19.191038.12929@hummer.iupui.edu> StG@hummer.iupui.edu (Scott Griepentrog) writes: >>From: daver!cheers!greg@decwrl.dec.com (Greg Onufer) >> >>Commercial offers are in *very* bad taste on Usenet. Please post an >>apology. >> >>Cheers, >>Greg Onufer > >I hereby apolgize for offering to the OS9 community what it has so badly >wanted (their own magazine) for so long, and even with the first copy >free to boot! > >And thanks to those of you who have replied via mail with your >addresses, I will be getting your copy out in the mail right away. > >StG > >p.s. mailing address to me is o.k. - mail is safer, but slower... Bravo Scott! He's sacrificed much of his time and money to support OS9. More power to him. The Usenet is for the free dissemination of information. And while the "commercial" offers of misc.forsale purporting to get you easy money are indeed in very poor taste, his offer was far from that. Geesh, no gratitude. No wonder there is so little motivation to develop for OS9. Let's hope the MM1, Paul, Kevin, and other people like Scott change that. Larry -- Larry Weeks |"Take time to deliberate, but when the time for Purdue University | action has arrived, stop thinking and go in." Astro. Engineering | -- Napoleon Bonaparte dev@ecn.purdue.edu |"Education is a journey, not a destination."
us277492@mmm.serc.3m.com (Arthur T. Manning) (07/21/90)
No apology needed for me.. Where else would I find this information if I were not on their surface mailing list? -- Arthur T. Manning atmanning@mmm.uucp / 3M Center 518-1 \____/_________ St Paul MN 55144-1000 __ , / _ __ __ \ ph. 612 733-4401 / / / / / / / |
os9paul@gkcl.ists.ca (Paul Good) (07/23/90)
In article <1990Jul20.031520.24021@ecn.purdue.edu> dev@ei.ecn.purdue.edu (Larry Weeks) writes: >He's sacrificed much of his time and money to support OS9. Or perhaps he has 'invested' his time and money in the hopes of turning a profit. >More power to him. For putting out a magazine for the OSK/OS9 community: YES. For advertising on Usenet: NO! >The Usenet is for the free dissemination of information. Yes, it is. BUT it is not to be used for free advertising of your products. Have you read your users' info material lately? Product announcements are allowed; commercial advertising is not. If Scott had made one announcement of his new magazine, not many would have complained. He has however issued a number (it's coming, it's here, still some free issues available). >And while the "commercial" offers of misc.forsale purporting to get >you easy money are indeed in very poor taste, his offer was far from >that. I'm not sure what your point is here. Is it that some people break the rules, so Scott should be allowed to as well? >Geesh, no gratitude. No wonder there is so little motivation to >develop for OS9. Let's hope the MM1, Paul, Kevin, and other people like >Scott change that. It appears you are confused as to what the actual issue is. I'm sure there are many people that appreciate efforts to expand the OSK universe. However, that does not require them to grant carte blanche to step on the Usenet guidelines. Paul Good INTERNET: os9paul@gkcl.ists.ca UUCP: ists!gkcl.ists.ca!os9paul
heiby@mcdchg.chg.mcd.mot.com (Ron Heiby) (07/27/90)
From: usenet@chg.mcd.mot.com (Newprod Moderator)
Newsgroups: comp.newprod
Followup-To: poster
Subject: comp.newprod Guidelines [last mod 04/02/90]
Here's the current set of guidelines for the comp.newprod newsgroup.
The purpose of this newsgroup is to announce the existence of new products
and services. I'm very firm on guidelines A,B,&C, pretty firm on D&E (I have
allowed announcements of new versions of previously announced products.).
I'm pretty lax on F, G, and H, usually letting someone who wants to look bad,
look bad and allowing announcements that need more space, have it.
Guideline H makes my life a *lot* easier.
I have a real job. I try to post comp.newprod announcements about once
per week, but sometimes I can't. Please understand.
Sometimes, I make mistakes. Please don't ascribe to malice that which
can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Guidelines:
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A) The submission must be an announcement of a new product.
B) The announcement must be from a representative of the company
whose product is being announced. (This can include postings
with words like, "Joe Vendor at Fubar, Inc. asked me to post
this for him, since they aren't on the net.")
C) There must be a name and address (electronic and postal) for
receiving more information. (A phone number is suggested.)
D) Announcements should happen no more than once.
E) Certain "events" happen more than once, like UniForum, seminars,
and training courses. Announcements of this nature may repeat
if there is real value to the community in doing so.
F) Announcements should ideally fit within about 15 screen lines.
G) Announcements that look like advertising hype to the moderator
may be returned to the submitter for re-write.
H) You should use the standard news posting interface, rather than
mail, so that I won't have to munge the header lines as much.
I may (or may not) edit a submission to remove extraneous whitespace,
shorten an unnecessary signature, or correct a glaring spelling error,
but don't count on it.
Conflict-of-Interest Policy: My position on Motorola products is that I will
not *generate* an announcement for any products and that Motorola products
must meet the same guidelines as other products.
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Those who wish to construct an announcement should look at the suggestions
that I have included below which point out common mistakes that people
tend to make. The suggestions are based on my own experience and on
feedback from comp.newprod readers.
Dos & Don'ts on constructing an announcement:
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1) Do Keep it as short as possible.
2) Don't Right-justify it.
3) Don't Quote your own management on how nifty your product is.
4) Don't Quote a mutual admiration society on how nifty your product is.
5) Don't Use phrases like "very unique", "for immediate release", or
"at a fraction of what you would otherwise pay".
6) Don't Go into corporate history, customer list, or distribution methods.
7) Do Ensure that you don't misuse the word "insure".
8) Do Keep it technical.
9) Do Let those who are interested ask for details.
10) Do Run it through a spelling checker.
11) Do Use the "Keywords" and "Summary" headers to advantage.
12) Do Include a valid domain-style "From" address so I don't have to guess.
13) Do Keep it as short as possible!
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I am open to suggestions on further modifications to the guidelines and
the suggestions. Thanks!
--
Ron Heiby, heiby@chg.mcd.mot.com Moderator: comp.newprod
"Mandatory Drug Testing? Just Say NO!!!"