[comp.os.os9] Network options for os/9

pss610@unhd.unh.edu (Paul S Secinaro) (05/16/91)

In the lab where I work, we have a special purpose VME bus machine
that runs os/9 on a 68K processor and is used for image processing.
I don't know much about os/9, so could someone tell me what kind of
networking packages exist for the system?  I am especially interested
in being able to run this machine over Ethernet as an NFS client.  Even
better would be the ability to, for example, have a setup where you
could pop up live video windows on other machines on the net, perhaps
running X11 or something of that nature.  Does this sound reasonable?
What about cost/availability?
Thanks
Paul S.


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Paul S. Secinaro
University of New Hampsire
pss610@unhd.unh.edu
p_secinaro@unhh.unh.edu

abg@mars.ornl.gov (Alex Bangs -- bangsal@ornl.gov) (05/16/91)

In article <1991May16.003019.25620@unhd.unh.edu> pss610@unhd.unh.edu (Paul S Secinaro) writes:
>I don't know much about os/9, so could someone tell me what kind of
>networking packages exist for the system?

The two basic packages Microware has are the Ethernet Support Package
(ESP) for CMC Ethernet boards. They also have a more generic Internet
Support Package which assumes that the Ether stuff is handled by
something else (like the on-board Ether on a 147). I don't know much
about the ISP package, but we have numerous copies of ESP.

Call Microware for prices (Microware sells S/W for Motorola systems
directly; for other CPUs, I believe you purchase direct from the CPU
vendor).

>I am especially interested
>in being able to run this machine over Ethernet as an NFS client.

Ha, ha, ha. Good luck. I bought version 1.0 of NFS from Microware a
while ago. Never by version 1.0 of ANYTHING from Microware. Version 1.0
was dead-on-arrival. Didn't work at all. I have since received later
versions that have worked somewhat (could do NFS clients but not
serving; many small problems with NFS client operation). I just received
a more recent version which I will be testing in the near future, and
which (they tell me) is supposed to fix the many small problems.

Note NFS cost is $1000 per box.

>Even
>better would be the ability to, for example, have a setup where you
>could pop up live video windows on other machines on the net, perhaps
>running X11 or something of that nature.  Does this sound reasonable?

Well, Microware sez they are working on X11 for the future. See the
section on NFS for what this means.

Good luck...feel free to respond with questions.

Alex L. Bangs ---> bangsal@ornl.gov         Of course, my opinions are
Oak Ridge National Laboratory/CESAR            my own darned business...
Autonomous Robotic Systems Group

bill@mwca.UUCP (Bill Sheppard) (05/16/91)

In article <1991May16.003019.25620@unhd.unh.edu> pss610@unhd.unh.edu (Paul S Secinaro) writes:
>In the lab where I work, we have a special purpose VME bus machine
>that runs os/9 on a 68K processor...

>I don't know much about os/9, so could someone tell me what kind of
>networking packages exist for the system?  I am especially interested
>in being able to run this machine over Ethernet as an NFS client...

Absolutely - we have full TCP/IP support, including (optionally) either
client NFS or server NFS/RPC.  Contact our Northeastern Regional Office
(conveniently in the same state as you) for details - (603)929-4107.
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bill@mwca.UUCP (Bill Sheppard) (05/18/91)

In article <1991May16.114206.6477@cs.utk.edu> abg@mars.epm.ornl.gov (Alex Bangs -- bangsal@ornl.gov) writes:
>In article <1991May16.003019.25620@unhd.unh.edu> pss610@unhd.unh.edu (Paul S Secinaro) writes:
>>I don't know much about os/9, so could someone tell me what kind of
>>networking packages exist for the system?
>
>The two basic packages Microware has are the Ethernet Support Package
>(ESP) for CMC Ethernet boards. They also have a more generic Internet
>Support Package which assumes that the Ether stuff is handled by
>something else (like the on-board Ether on a 147). I don't know much
>about the ISP package, but we have numerous copies of ESP.

Actually, ISP now includes support for the CMC 10i/l and 100i/l boards.  You
will only need ESP if you are using a CMC 10+ (quite an old board).  Please
note that your performance with ISP will typically be three-or-more times
greater than with ESP.

>Call Microware for prices (Microware sells S/W for Motorola systems
>directly; for other CPUs, I believe you purchase direct from the CPU
>vendor).

Basically this is correct.  For actual development software (Professional OS-9)
we sell the Motorola Development Paks, other board manufacturers have licensed
Professional OS-9 from us and will resell it to you.  We sell other tools
(Source Level Debugger, compilers, NFS, Polytron PVCS/PolyMake/PolyShell, etc.)
or you can often buy them from your board manufacturer.

>>I am especially interested
>>in being able to run this machine over Ethernet as an NFS client.

>[various references to difficulty using NFS 1.0 deleted]

Version 1.1 NFS is scheduled for June release; substantial performance
improvements, feature enhancements, and bug fixes have been implemented.

>Note NFS cost is $1000 per box.

NFS/RPC server is $995/CPU - NFS client is $250/CPU (these are single copy
end-user prices - licenses are subject to standard discounts).

>>Even better would be the ability to, for example, have a setup where you
>>could pop up live video windows on other machines on the net, perhaps
>>running X11 or something of that nature.  Does this sound reasonable?

>Well, Microware sez they are working on X11 for the future.

X-Windows Client Development Pak for OS-9/680x0 has been released (X11R4).
Server software will follow shortly.

>...feel free to respond with questions.

Ditto.
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