[net.works] Unix Based Personal Machines

MCB%MIT-MC@sri-unix.UUCP (07/09/84)

From:  Michael A. Bloom <MCB @ MIT-MC>


Do you have a favorite small computer that runs UNIX?  I intend
to buy a machine running UNIX towards the end of the summer, and
would like information to help me make a decision. Please tell me:

What machines do you know of that have a decent UNIX implementation?
What do you like best about it/them? What misfeatures are present?

I'm particularly interested in info on 68K and 16032 based machines,
but welcome info on others.  4.x would be a plus.  So would a 
non-4.x system that nonetheless has job control.

If you work for a manufacturer of UNIX based machines, send me a line
about your product.  If you own such a machine, please also write.

If there is interest, I will summarize to the net.

Thanks,
	Michael Bloom - mcb@mit-mc (arpa) - ..!vortex!ttidca!mab (uucp)

ZELLICH@SRI-NIC.ARPA@sri-unix.UUCP (07/16/84)

From:  Rich Zellich <ZELLICH@SRI-NIC.ARPA>

At the NCC last week, NBI was showing a nice system for $15,475, which
was a 68010 running an apparently-total 4.2bsd port with a bit-mapped screen,
1 meg memory (2 meg optional), 22 (or 24?) meg Winchester, 640K floppy, and
custom raster-ops processor.  The bit-mapped screen was used for Star/Lisa/
MacIntosh style icons and overlapping windows; a separate process could be
run in each window, and the system could also emulate a VT100 (and other
terminals?) in a window connected to a mainframe while running local programs
in other windows.  Besides UUCP and cu, TCP/IP are also supported (as said
above, apparently \all/ of 4.2 was ported).  vi, ed, and ex are of course
available, and I think emacs is, also.  Oh yeah, the "U!" system also has
a 3-button mouse.

The literature, as I remember it (I haven't unpacked all the NCC stuff yet)
compares the U! machine as slightly slower than a single-user VAX 11/750 and,
in some cases, slightly faster than a 4-user 11/750.

-Rich
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msc@qubix.UUCP (Mark Callow) (07/24/84)

>> Rich Zellich <ZELLICH@SRI-NIC.ARPA>

>> At the NCC last week, NBI was showing a nice system for $15,475, which
>> was a 68010 running an apparently-total 4.2bsd port with a bit-mapped screen,
>> 1 meg memory (2 meg optional), 22 (or 24?) meg Winchester, 640K floppy, and
>> custom raster-ops processor.  The bit-mapped screen was used for Star/Lisa/
>> MacIntosh style icons and overlapping windows; a separate process could be
>> run in each window, and the system could also emulate a VT100 (and other
>> terminals?) in a window connected to a mainframe while running local programs
>> in other windows.  Besides UUCP and cu, TCP/IP are also supported (as said
>> above, apparently \all/ of 4.2 was ported).  vi, ed, and ex are of course
>> available, and I think emacs is, also.  Oh yeah, the "U!" system also has
>> a 3-button mouse.

It sounds suspiciously like a Sun-2 running SunTools.  Anyone know the
real story?
-- 
From the TARDIS of Mark Callow
msc@qubix.UUCP,  qubix!msc@decwrl.ARPA
...{decvax,ucbvax}!decwrl!qubix!msc, ...{amd,ihnp4,ittvax}!qubix!msc

"Nothing shocks me.  I'm an Engineer."

sunny@sun.uucp (Sunny Kirsten) (07/24/84)

Well, except that Sunstations use 1/4" QIC cartridge tapes, not sloppies.