karn@faline.UUCP (06/12/87)
Since the TCP-vs-ISO controversy has come up again, I offer this item I originally posted on the ARPA TCP-IP mailing list several months ago. It was recently reprinted in the Connexions newsletter.. Phil -------- Indeed, one wonders if the computer public is at all aware of the fact that the Internet has been quietly doing what the ISO hawkers are only promising in big bold trade rag headlines. On the other hand, most vendors have certainly heard of TCP/IP, considering that most of them already sell it, so they have less of an excuse. I think there are other, darker forces at play here. Recent developments (or, more precisely, the lack of same) in the high definition TV standards game illustrate what I think is going on in our own field. It seems that over the past few years, certain Japanese companies have led the way by developing a complete line of compatible, working, high quality video components. You can buy their stuff off the shelf right now. At a recent international standards convention in Europe, the Americans and the Canadians enthusiastically supported the Japanese standard. After all, it works and it's available now. "Can't have that", the Europeans replied. "It'd be too hard to scan-convert back to our existing 625-line 50-Hz formats". And everybody went home without an international standard. Really now. And they said it with a straight face. This has to be about the thinnest technical excuse anyone has ever invented. The *real* reason (and this was openly stated in a EUROPEAN trade journal editorial) is that the European manufacturers deeply resent the Japanese head start into the high definition TV business. There is just no way they are going to approve anybody else's standard, regardless of how good it is technically or whether it's good for the users or not. It'd be bad for business. To the European vendors, I am truly sorry that the Americans got a head start by inventing TCP/IP and being the first to build big, operational internetworks in which the common carriers ("PTTs") are only minor subcomponents. To the American vendors of protocol software, I am truly sorry that so many public domain implementations of TCP/IP are out there stealing your sales. To those well-meaning souls in the Federal government and elsewhere who naively trust vendor groups and standards organizations to know what's best for your networking needs: take a look at the prices they're charging for the few ISO packages out there. After you've put your eyeballs back into your head, kick out the salesman and take a good close look at just what these slickly advertised protocols will do for you (as distinguished from your vendor's stock price). Then decide if you want to throw everything away and start over just so you can use the magic phrase "ISO compatible" to describe your network. TCP/IP is uniquely successful among communications standards because it was one of the very few ever designed by the USERS (who just want to get their work done as efficiently and as cheaply as possible) instead of the VENDORS (who want to make as much money as possible, an entirely different goal). What's good for General Motors may sometimes be good for the country, but in the protocol standards game it's a different story. Michael Padlipsky was right on target on this one. Only the most hopelessly naive user succumbs to the "Illusion of Vendor Support." These are obviously my own personal opinions only. Phil!r!sc6
gdmr@its63b.ed.ac.uk (G Ross) (06/17/87)
This really has nothing to do with protocols, but I can't let it pass for a second time... In article <637@faline.bellcore.com> karn@faline.UUCP writes: >Since the TCP-vs-ISO controversy has come up again, I offer this item I >originally posted on the ARPA TCP-IP mailing list several months ago. >It was recently reprinted in the Connexions newsletter.. >-------- >I think there are other, darker forces at play here. Recent developments >(or, more precisely, the lack of same) in the high definition TV standards >game illustrate what I think is going on in our own field. It seems that >over the past few years, certain Japanese companies have led the way by >developing a complete line of compatible, working, high quality video >components. You can buy their stuff off the shelf right now. At a recent >international standards convention in Europe, the Americans and the >Canadians enthusiastically supported the Japanese standard. After all, it >works and it's available now. "Can't have that", the Europeans replied. "It'd >be too hard to scan-convert back to our existing 625-line 50-Hz formats". >And everybody went home without an international standard. I can only assume that either that you have never watched scan-converted broadcasts, or that you are not prone to attacks of sea-sickness. The effect is that moving objects (or worse, entire backgrounds) jerk across the screen, losing all clarity while they "move", but regaining definition when they stop. The result is extremely disconcerting to the viewer. It's only to be expected that the European broadcasting authorities would reject any system which caused such a gross degradation in quality of service -- indeed, we, as viewers, would be entitled to feel upset if such a system were ever foisted on us! 625/50 may not be perfect, but it's considerably better than scan-converted HD/60 would be. [I believe that it is much easier to scan-convert from 50Hz to 60Hz, so that European material shown in 60Hz areas would look quite reasonable. However, this would give a totally erroneous impression of scan-conversion in general.]