geoff@eagle_snax.UUCP ( R.H. coast near the top) (09/04/88)
A number of people on the NFS mailing list (nfs@bcm.tmc.edu), together
with a few who are effectively out of reach of it, have proposed
that a newsgroup comp.protocols.nfs be created to provide a broader
forum for discussion of NFS, RPC/XDR and related issues. For instance,
I'd like to see discussions which include such things as FTAM, Greenberg &
Keene's NFILE, RFS, Domain, and the Andrew file system. A quick scan of
comp.protocols, comp.dcom, selected comp.sys groups and comp.unix
showed 19 articles with a subject field which included "[Nn][Ff][Ss]",
with a further 6 in comp.sys.sun (sun-spots). (We expire "comp." after
14 days.) Together these would suggest that comp.protocols.nfs would have
an acceptable traffic level. For now, I see no need to make it a
moderated group.
As usual, please mail comments to me. I'll summarize to the net and (if
the response is positive) issue a call for votes. Please mail
directly, rather than using 'r': my Usenet path is usually horribly
circuitous...
Geoff
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ARPA:geoff@sun.com +------------------------------------------+geoff@eagle_snax.UUCP ( R.H. coast near the top) (09/04/88)
Re-reading my posting, I feel a clarification is in order. I would
expect the primary purpose of comp.protocols.nfs to be discussions
of practical NFS issues, including bugs, product availability, proposed
enhancements, interoperability, etc., Comparative discussions of various
distributed file systems would definitely be of secondary importance. (For
people who want to relive the NFS vs. RFS flame wars of a year or two
back, I'm sure somebody has archived them.)
Here are some of the NFS-related topics recently posted to the net:
Update on "NFS and TCP/IP for the Mac"
A NFS file server on the IBM PC
NFS security
QEMM, and DesqVIEW, and PC-NFS, and findings...
Problems with groups under PC-NFS
NFS for IBM PC (*not* PC-NFS)
Integrating Apollo into Sun NFS
NFS, A/UX and the Mac II
MacNFS's file mapping.
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ARPA:geoff@sun.com +------------------------------------------+david@ms.uky.edu (David Herron -- One of the vertebrae) (09/04/88)
I didn't know there *was* an nfs mailing list ...
I'll support creation of the newsgroup and like the name ... when
does the voting start?
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I think comp.protocols.nfs is a fine idea, provided it's for the objective
examination of network file systems ( generic ), but I don't think it's a
fine idea if it's just for Sun's Network File System, specifically. It's
a means to an end - transporting data - and I think the real interest on
the part of most readers' minds is transporting data, not helping fix a less
than perfect standard ...
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No, not much." -- Aldous Huxley, 'Ape And Essence'daveb@llama.rtech.UUCP (Dave Brower) (09/10/88)
In article <55@unet.pacbell.COM> childers@unet.PacBell.COM (Richard Childers) writes: >I think comp.protocols.nfs is a fine idea, provided it's for the objective >examination of network file systems ( generic ), but I don't think it's a >fine idea if it's just for Sun's Network File System, specifically. It's >a means to an end - transporting data - and I think the real interest on >the part of most readers' minds is transporting data, not helping fix a less >than perfect standard ... > >-- richard Bzzt, no. NFS is as specific a protocol as comp.protocols.tcp-ip, and more so than say, comp.protocols.iso :-). I don't think the proposal is intended to create a group for the NFS/RFS/Sprite/etc. wars, but as a place for people who want to talk about real problems with this real protocol. I'm in favor of a technical group, but not of a talk.religion.distributed- file-systems. -dB "Ready when you are Raoul!" {amdahl, cpsc6a, mtxinu, sun, hoptoad}!rtech!daveb daveb@rtech.com <- FINALLY!