ed@qtc.UUCP (06/02/87)
Need info on possible products/vendors that will allow a Mac with
a laserwriter+ on an appletalk network to connect to a ethernet
(tcp-ip) network.
I have a Vax/Vms host networked with Excelan (tcp-ip) ethernet to
a Sequent Balance (Unix) host. I would like to purchase a Mac
and do things such as file xfer/terminal emulation from the mac
to any hosts on the net (ala ftp/telnet), also remote file
serving would be great.
From my Vms and Unix host, I would like to send print jobs to the
Laserwiter+ thru the appletalk. I do not want to mess with cable
swapping or physical button pushing.
I understand there are a few ethernet to appletalk boxes out there.
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| Ed Lisle | ogcvax! |
| Quantitative Technology Corporation | verdix! qtc!ed |
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+------------------------------------------------------------+dennisg@pwcs.StPaul.GOV (Dennis Grittner) (06/04/87)
In article <287@qtc.UUCP> ed@qtc.UUCP (Ed Lisle) writes: >Need info on possible products/vendors that will allow a Mac with >a laserwriter+ on an appletalk network to connect to a ethernet >(tcp-ip) network. The Kinetics Fastpath is the box that's do it. Somebody else may be making them - but I haven't heard of them. Software might include a lot of different things including MacIP from Stanford. >I have a Vax/Vms host networked with Excelan (tcp-ip) ethernet to >a Sequent Balance (Unix) host. I would like to purchase a Mac >and do things such as file xfer/terminal emulation from the mac >to any hosts on the net (ala ftp/telnet), also remote file >serving would be great. TOPS from Centram would be the file server product. I thought that Sun or 3COM was buying them oe something ??? TOPS can include Unix to Mac ( and , yes PC ) fileserving was well as PC to Mac and vice versa. >From my Vms and Unix host, I would like to send print jobs to the >Laserwiter+ thru the appletalk. I do not want to mess with cable >swapping or physical button pushing. While it oughta be possible, I don't know of any software to enable the VMS or Unix host to spool across ethernet to appletalk and print ( if there is will someone please let me know too - I could really use this! ). There are other software packages like CAP ( I think ) from CMU ( ?? ) and others. I've heard that Ohio State has some Macs being served via a Pyramid and they are probably pretty up on the software and hardware as well as other Universities. >I understand there are a few ethernet to appletalk boxes out there. I don't think there are but I'm not really sure. Kinetics is at : P.O. Box 3341 Walnut Creek, California 94598 (415) 947-0998 How about it out there what else is there ( hardware?, software? ) and how good is it. I think the kinetics box works pretty good but I haven't tried a lot of different software on it here, just MacIP. -- Dennis Grittner City of Saint Paul, Minnesota (612) 298-4402 Room 700, 25 W. 4th St. 55102
cetron@CS.UTAH.EDU.UUCP (06/05/87)
a response to an earlier posting: Subject: vms fileservers for mac's Cc: cetron Status: R We are using the appletalk for vms software provided by alisa systems in pasadena..... Much more info can be gotten from them directly: Alisa Systems, Inc. 221 E. Walnut St., Suite 230 Pasadena, Ca 91101 818 - 792-9474 (if you call please mention that you got there info via me on the arpanet, this is NOT for kickbacks - I have no association 'cept as satisfied customer - but I am trying to convince them to get an internet/usenet link of some kind....) Any way a quick summary: 1. fileserver - somewhat slower than a local floppy, but adequate...allows up to 15 volumes (floppy equivalents) per server (and you can have multiple servers per vax). Each volume appears to the mac user as a seperate volume icon on the desktop. Volumes can be password protected, or marked as readonly. Additionaly, 'temp' files (such as word temps, excel resume files, etc) are coded by the 'username' picked in the chooser upon startup. Desktop files are also coded this way so different people can have different format desktops in the same partition. 2. File Server Utility - allows files to be imported/exported from the vms file system. This allows dir of the various files on the mac volumes and manipulation of them..... I have been able to have out sect'ys compose letters under word 3.0, then save them on the fileserver volumes, picked them up, and brought them over to vms and subsequently sent them over the arpanet.....I have also been able to use fsu to recover word temp files when word 3.0 crashes. 3. laser spooler support - you can set up several laser spoolers which look just like laserwriters to the mac's but will spool the output and then send it back out to laserwriters out on the appletalk network. Utilities also exist to allow users on other decnetted machines (or even the actual server vms machine) to spool files out to the appletalk laserwriters. An option exists to spool files that are already postscript. Additionaly, we have a unix vax send via ftp postscript output from the Adobe Transcript package to out vms file server and have it spool these files out to the laserwriters. All is all, it is a very good package, and MOST IMPORTANTLY, the people at alisa will a) answer the phone, and b) talk to you and help you. As the administrator of a facility, the service after the sale is as critical as the sale itself - and these people are good.... ( in the future, they will support remote decnet login from the mac, as well as remote decnet task 'linking' - maybe for mail type stuff.....) -ed cetron Computer Services Manager Center for Engineering Design Univ of Utah cetron@utah-cs.arpa