dlw@hpsmtc1.HP.COM (David Williams) (02/10/88)
Ok you LocalTalk/Ethertalk/Ethernet gurus: A Question... Now that there are Ethernet cards for the SE and the II why is a Kinetics Box (or like boxes) necessary? Will there be a version of AUFS/CAP stuff that does not require a box between my Mac II w/EtherTalk and my Hp Unix box on the ethernet? If not, WHY NOT? And just where might NFS fit into this scheme? I know TOPS is working on incorporating this into TOPS to some degree. However, the cost has to be reasonable, as I am the only Mac II user in my lab, and we are not about to spend big bucks for just one user. I can already have multiple sessions with my Unix box courtesy of NCSA TELNET, but it would be great to be able to mount the file system and store some of my files on Un*x. Yes, I know I will be able to do that sort of thing if I buy AUX and another disk drive--but I want to do it without AUX and under the MAC OS. Take it away gurus...... -------------------------------------------------------------------------- David L. Williams dlw@hpsmtc1.HP.COM ...!hplabs!hpda!dlw Hewlett Packard, Cupertino Ca Software Development Technology Laboratory Distributed Computing Environment Project Phone:(408) 447-5425 Mailstop: 47LR "What if Apple put a SPARC on a Nubus card?"
krauskpf@uxe.cso.uiuc.edu (02/12/88)
The Kinetics FastPath is still necessary for price/performance for groups of Macs > 3. AppleTalk cabling is cheaper too. Protocol-wise, you are just waiting for UNIX to support EtherTalk access in the kernel with good library interfaces like CAP's. Remember, the EtherTalk hardware writes AppleTalk packets right onto Ethernet rather than encapsulating in UDP. When is HP-UX going to support EtherTalk in the kernel? The port of CAP should take less than one day and the AppleShare client already runs on EtherTalk Macs. Tim Krauskopf NCSA timk@ncsa.uiuc.edu
jeff@tc.fluke.COM (Jeff Stearns) (02/13/88)
In article <11840006@hpsmtc1.HP.COM> dlw@hpsmtc1.HP.COM (David Williams) writes: >Ok you LocalTalk/Ethertalk/Ethernet gurus: A Question... > > ... >And just where might NFS fit into this scheme? I know TOPS is working on >incorporating this into TOPS to some degree. However, the cost has to be >reasonable, as I am the only Mac II user in my lab, and we are not about to >spend big bucks for just one user. > >I can already have multiple sessions with my Unix box courtesy of NCSA TELNET, >but it would be great to be able to mount the file system and store some of >my files on Un*x. Yes, I know I will be able to do that sort of thing if I >buy AUX and another disk drive--but I want to do it without AUX and under the >MAC OS. I am reading a copy of "TOPS for Sun Workstations, System Administration Guide". Chapter one, page one, paragraph one, sentence two: "The TOPS network allows transparent file sharing between servers running the UNIX operating system and an AppleTalk network of Apple Macintosh or IBM PC computers." I am surprised at the comparatively low price and flexible licensing terms for TOPS servers running on Suns. You can always call TOPS for info, just as I did. They are very helpful. 415-549-5900 Likewise, you can obtain TOPS for VAX/UNIX from Mt Xinu. Again, you can call them for details. 415-644-0146 -- Jeff Stearns Domain: jeff@tc.fluke.COM Voice: +1 206 356 5064 UUCP: {uw-beaver,decvax!microsof,ucbvax!lbl-csam,allegra,sun}!fluke!jeff Snail: John Fluke Mfg. Co. / P.O. Box C9090 / Everett WA 98206
TVR%CCRMA-F4@SAIL.STANFORD.EDU (Tovar) (02/16/88)
I am surprised at the comparatively low price and flexible licensing terms
for TOPS servers running on Suns. You can always call TOPS for info, just as
I did. They are very helpful. 415-549-5900
I'm not surprised, they're owned by Sun Microsystems. Think about it when
examining their pricing...