[comp.protocols.appletalk] Screen Slaver Program

lyman@eos.UUCP (Lyman Taylor) (03/03/88)

	I'm looking for a program that uses AppleTalk to allow one  Mac to 
show what is happening on the screen of a remote Mac:

	"master" mac				"slave" mac
                    \_________________________/
			appeltalk 
	     |					    |
	     |					    |
	user pulls down the file		the file menu falls down
	menu			

I don't need to track the mouse pointer; only the events generated that cause
"things" to happen ( buttons pressed... dialogs and menus activated, etc. )

This is not exactly a server/client relationship like NeWS, X windows, or file
servers are usually run.  And its not like using TOPS or Appleshare to run a
program off of a remote disk.  Although this has to involve passing messages
like the previously mentioned programs.

	I would like to know if anyone has developed a program of this type.
And if so how I can get my HANDS on it.   It would save alot of development
time on my part. ( Hopefully I don't have to reinvent the wheel  :- )

	Doesn't anyone do human computer interface testing out there? :-)
This has got to be the ultimate in unobtrusive testing.  



	[ If this program doesn't exist does anyone know of where I can get
		my hands on some public domain source that demonstrates the
		use of AppleTalk.					    ]

	Besides the lack of a multi-million dollar market ... is there any
technical problem with getting such a program to work.  I can't think of any;
however I haven't programmed extentsively on the Mac either.  This program may
change that.


	Thanks in advance.

WARNING: I have cross posted this message. If you post a response please be
careful.  It probably to mail me a message if you know of such a beast or
( I know I'm going to reget this...) if your interested in the responses
I get.  I'll try to post a summary.


Lyman S. Taylor					lyman@ames-aurora.arpa
NASA Ames Research Center		                or
						    more verbose
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pmgreen@ICARUS.CNS.SYR.EDU (Philip M. Green) (03/05/88)

If you get any info please send me a copy or post it to 
the list.
Thanks
Phil Green
Syracuse University
pmgreen@icarus.cns.syr.edu

P9684@QZCOM.BITNET ("Peter Freund") (03/09/88)

Screen(Terminal) for Macintosh!
Check out the product called "Timbuktu" from WOS DataSystems,
Inc.
(913) 843-8101
This program seems to be precisely what you look for. But I regard
AppleTalk as to slow and "what happens on the Mac screen" too
complicated as well as a regular terminal (just text).
Peter Freund, Sweden

scott@tekcrl.TEK.COM (Scott Huddleston) (03/12/88)

It exists, and is called "Timbuktu" (rather appropriately).
I can tell you the publisher next week.  It's pretty powerful --
allowing one Mac to observe everything happening on another
including mouse movements, and even allows interaction -- two
people working on the same Mac (one remotely).  It does not
enslave more than one Mac at a time, alas.