ralphw@IUS3.IUS.CS.CMU.EDU (Ralph Hyre) (04/05/88)
[not sure if followup to comp.protocols.appletalk is completely appropriate, but as long as we're machine-specific we might as well.] In article <8804021615.AA18966@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> michel@CCT.BBN.COM (Tony Michel) writes: >Well, Thanks!... >My Mac is a real host on the Internet! > >This system works very well, and is shockingly cheap. > >Having said something nice, now let me grumble. The correct solution to >my previous query would be to have the NCSA software support User FTP, and >I'm not sure why it does not. Perhaps they have plans? Anyway, for >something FREE, it's great. SU-MacIP is another implementation from Stanford which supports multiple TELNET, FTP, and Finger stuff, using as much of the Mac Interface as the implementors though of. User FTP is most impressive, since it looks like a standard file dialog for copying from disk to disk. There's also a free (to non-commercial, presumably, since it's Mikel Matthews' port of Phil Karn's 'KA9Q' TCP/IP stuff), but it's definitely non-Mac interface at this point. [In fact my version crashes when you use the mouse, due to interrupt problems.] It also purports to support TCP over Appletalk, but since I wasn't able to understand the documentation well enough to configure it I was never able to try telnetting to something else via our Apple LocalTalk<->Kinetics<->Ethernet connection. I believe SuU-MacCIP is available for a small amount of money, small being relative to who you are [University vs. Commercial.] (Yes, there was some grumbling on info-appletalk [aka comp.protocols.appletalk] about the licensing policy when it was announced over a year ago, since people at commercial places [BBN in particular] helped out with early guts of the code, then were getting screwed on the licensing fee) Possible Disclaimer: The ITC here was stress testing 2 early implementations of these last fall, and NCSA was so flakey as to be unusable, so it was hard to get experience with it versus the much more stable SU-MacIP. I don't recall version numbers, but I'm fairly certain that they were both pre-release. Neither version dealt with the Kinetics box crashing very well. (That's the weak link that I see in this Mac networking stuff) Hopefully someone will write an IP router for a Mac II that uses the Apple EtherTalk card to link some Apple LocalTalk nets together. (Can A/UX do this, or has Apple had time to rip the TCP/IP stuff out and put DECnet in:-( -- - Ralph W. Hyre, Jr. Internet: ralphw@ius2.cs.cmu.edu Phone:(412)268-{2847,3275} CMU-{BUGS,DARK} Amateur Packet Radio: N3FGW@W2XO, or c/o W3VC, CMU Radio Club, Pittsburgh, PA -- - Ralph W. Hyre, Jr. Internet: ralphw@ius2.cs.cmu.edu Phone:(412)268-{2847,3275} CMU-{BUGS,DARK} Amateur Packet Radio: N3FGW@W2XO, or c/o W3VC, CMU Radio Club, Pittsburgh, PA