shmuli@shum (06/26/88)
I think I remember reading that IBM PCs (clones) connected to Apple/LocalTalk cannot access the files on a CAP server (assuming that the net is connected to Ethernet via a FastPath box) - there was no client software. Is it possible now that Apple has released PC AppleShare?? Has anyone tried this yet?! Shmuel
A.Eric@GSB-WHY.STANFORD.EDU (Eric M. Berg) (06/27/88)
I think I remember reading that IBM PCs (clones) connected to Apple/LocalTalk cannot access the files on a CAP server (assuming that the net is connected to Ethernet via a FastPath box) - there was no client software. Is it possible now that Apple has released PC AppleShare?? Has anyone tried this yet?! We tried this, and I described some of the problems we encountered in several messages posted to this list in mid-April (which I am resending to SHMULI%SHUM%etc). We have Apple's PC AppleShare cards in a large number of PCs and clones in our new faculty office building. The PCs are able to run Telnet and FTP (using the Stanford PC/IP software, modified by the Stanford Networking Systems software developers to use an AppleTalk rather than an Ethernet driver) through a Kinetics box running the KIP code just fine. However, we did run into problems with the CAP programs. In particular, the PC AppleShare hosts couldn't connect to an AUFS fileserver, and they couldn't send files over AppleTalk to the LWSRV program. According to Robert Lenoil of Apple, the problem was a bug in the ROM chips of the PC AppleShare cards. We now have new ROMs (or new cards, I forget which) that supposedly solve the problem. I don't know whether we've had a chance to test the CAP programs with the new cards yet. Eric M. Berg Computer Facility Graduate School of Business Stanford University -------
mckay@HARBOR.ECN.PURDUE.EDU (Dwight D McKay) (06/27/88)
--- Your message of: Sunday, 06/26/88 --- From: shmuli@shum Subject: Using PCs with CAP/KIP? I think I remember reading that IBM PCs (clones) connected to Apple/LocalTalk cannot access the files on a CAP server (assuming that the net is connected to Ethernet via a FastPath box) - there was no client software. Is it possible now that Apple has released PC AppleShare?? Has anyone tried this yet?! Shmuel --- end of message --- We tried this last year with a BETA copy of AppleShare PC. After a discussion with Charlie Kim I found out that AUFS doesn't support "short-names" which are needed by machines with OS's which believe in eight character file names. --Dwight Mckay, ECN Workstation Software Support [arpanet: mckay@ee.ecn.purdue.edu, usenet: ...ihnp4!pur-ee!mckay] [Compu-serve: 75776,1521, office: MSEE 104F, phone: (317) 494-3561]
cck@cunixc.columbia.edu (Charlie C. Kim) (06/28/88)
In article <12409639315.11.A.ERIC@GSB-WHY.Stanford.EDU> you write: >.... >However, we did run into problems with the CAP programs. In particular, >the PC AppleShare hosts couldn't connect to an AUFS fileserver, and they >couldn't send files over AppleTalk to the LWSRV program. > >According to Robert Lenoil of Apple, the problem was a bug in the ROM chips >of the PC AppleShare cards. We now have new ROMs (or new cards, I forget >which) that supposedly solve the problem. I don't know whether we've >had a chance to test the CAP programs with the new cards yet. > There does seem to be a problem with checksums on the appleshare pc cards and lwsrv should work after this problem is fixed (actually, you could have patched lwsrv like atlook is patch); however, Aufs does NOT support AppleShare PC nor are there any current plans to make it does so. Be warned so you don't waste time :-). Charlie C. Kim User Services Columbia University