CALIFFM@BAYLOR.BITNET (Michael Califf) (11/09/88)
Question first, explanation next. Can I set up a KBox running KIP so that it doesn't need a BSD host to boot from? We have started using Stanford's TCP/IP for the PC over LocalTalk, but cannot get it running through the standard subnetting which runs on the old KBoxes (no real suprise, but an annoyance.) We have also run out of gateway table space on one of our hosts, so a move to KIP would be indicated, but I don't have access to a reliable UN*X host to run the administration software on. I can run 'stand-alone' with KSTAR but we can't afford to upgrade all of our KBoxes. Can I 'force-feed' a gateway with a proper prompt.config file? Is it possible to use Stanford's TCP without KIP? Am I just exposing my ignorance to the entire network? Any help would be appreciated, Mike Califf Communications Programming Coordinator Baylor University Waco, TX bitnet: CALIFFM@BAYLOR THEnet: BAYLOR::CALIFFM span: UTSPAN::UTADNX::BAYLOR::CALIFFM voice: (817) 755-2711
falken@caen.engin.umich.edu (David R Falkenburg) (11/09/88)
In article <Added.sXRo61y00Ui3IeS09g@andrew.cmu.edu>, CALIFFM@BAYLOR.BITNET (Michael Califf) writes: > > Can I 'force-feed' a gateway with a proper prompt.config file? Is it > possible to use Stanford's TCP without KIP? Am I just exposing my > ignorance to the entire network? > > > Any help would be appreciated, > > Mike Califf > Communications Programming Coordinator > Baylor University > Waco, TX > > bitnet: CALIFFM@BAYLOR > THEnet: BAYLOR::CALIFFM > span: UTSPAN::UTADNX::BAYLOR::CALIFFM > voice: (817) 755-2711 I think there's some sort of '1234' flag in the sample prompt.config file in one of the older KIP distributions which allows you to specify all the new params (just like K-Star trys) -dave -- Dave Falkenburg @ University of Michigan Computer Aided Engineering Network ARPA: falken@caen.engin.umich.edu UUCP: umix!caen.engin.umich.edu!falken
morgan@JESSICA.STANFORD.EDU (11/15/88)
Michael Califf <CALIFFM%BAYLOR.BITNET@vma.cc.cmu.edu> asks: > Question first, explanation next. Can I set up a KBox running KIP so > that it doesn't need a BSD host to boot from? > > We have started using Stanford's TCP/IP for the PC over LocalTalk, but > cannot get it running through the standard subnetting which runs on > the old KBoxes (no real suprise, but an annoyance.) We have also run > out of gateway table space on one of our hosts, so a move to KIP would > be indicated, but I don't have access to a reliable UN*X host to run > the administration software on. I can run 'stand-alone' with KSTAR > but we can't afford to upgrade all of our KBoxes. > > Can I 'force-feed' a gateway with a proper prompt.config file? Is it > possible to use Stanford's TCP without KIP? Am I just exposing my > ignorance to the entire network? The last lines of the sample "prompt.config" file that's distributed with KIP would lead you to believe that there is a way to configure all the setup information in that file, rather than being obliged to fetch it from a Unix machine running "atalkad". As far as I know, however, this doesn't work. Be aware, though, that the Unix system could be anywhere on your Internet (it doesn't have to be on your local subnet), and that "atalkad" puts virtually no load on the Unix host. You may be able to chat up the manager of some stable Unix box somewhere . . . Also, Stanford PC/IP-over-LocalTalk does not work with the traditional Kinetics "IP subnet" software. No plans to make it do so, since that software is fast approaching obsolescence. - RL "Bob" Morgan Networking Systems Stanford