jay@mitisft.Convergent.COM (Jay O'Conor) (06/23/89)
Does anyone out there know if the Communications Toolbox will be made available through APDA? If so, when? If not, why? Thanks in advance, Jay O'Conor Unisys/Convergent
jdevoto@Apple.COM (Jeanne A. E. DeVoto) (06/24/89)
In article <741@mitisft.Convergent.COM> jay@mitisft.Convergent.COM.UUCP writes: >Does anyone out there know if the Communications Toolbox will be made available >through APDA? If so, when? If not, why? A beta version of the Communications Toolbox will be available in APDA's July APDAlog. ====== jeanne a. e. devoto ================================================= Usenet: jdevoto@apple.com | You may not distribute this article under a jdevoto@well.UUCP | compilation copyright without my permission.
han@Apple.COM (Byron "No Comments" Han) (06/25/89)
Actually, it is the Communications _Toolbox_, not the Communications Manager.
Communications Manager runs under OS/2 EE.
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In article <741@mitisft.Convergent.COM>, jay@mitisft.Convergent.COM (Jay O'Conor) writes: > > Does anyone out there know if the Communications Toolbox will be made available > through APDA? If so, when? If not, why? > it is my understanding that it will be NOT be available from APDA initially and that those developers wanting to develop products for it will have to license it from Apple to distribute with their products. HOWEVER, since the Comm Toolbox is not yet ready to ship, Apple can always change their minds again as to its distribution. -- +--------------------------------------------------+ Leonard Rosenthol | GEnie : MACgician Lazerware, inc. | MacNet: MACgician UUCP: svc@well.UUCP | ALink : D0025
han@Apple.COM (Byron "No Comments" Han) (06/25/89)
In article <12381@well.UUCP> svc@well.UUCP (Leonard Rosenthol) writes: > it is my understanding that it will be NOT be available from APDA >initially and that those developers wanting to develop products for it will have >to license it from Apple to distribute with their products. HOWEVER, since >the Comm Toolbox is not yet ready to ship, Apple can always change their minds >again as to its distribution. > The Communications Toolbox _will_ be in the July APDAlog for developers who wish to develop using the Communications Toolbox. In order to ship the Communications Toolbox with their commercial products, developers will need to contact Apple Software Licensing for more information. +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Disclaimer: Apple has no connection with my postings. | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ Byron Han, Communications Scapegoat At Apple, we change the world everyday. Apple Computer, Inc. ----------------------------------------- 20525 Mariani Ave, MS27Y Internet: han@apple.COM Cupertino, CA 95014 UUCP:{sun,voder,nsc,decwrl}!apple!han ------------------------------------ GENIE:BYRONHAN CompuServe:72167,1664 ATTnet: 408-974-6450 Applelink:HAN1 HAN1@applelink.apple.COM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
tim@hoptoad.uucp (Tim Maroney) (06/26/89)
I have some questions about the Communications Toolbox --
(1) What is the connection between statements about licensing and
statements that this will become a standard part of the OS with System
7.0? Do all products using it have to license it (if they provide a
copy) or will it be subsumed under distributing the Apple system
software for licensing purposes?
(2) The distributed diagrams show only serial port support built in.
I am surprised that support for network terminals (using TCP and ADSP)
and network file transfer (using FTP and perhaps client-side AFP)
weren't slated for the first release. Will these be added later or is
this being left for third parties? If only serial connections modules
are being provided, how sure can we be that it is general enough for
LAN use?
(3) Will it be compatible with System 6.0.3 as well as 7.0?
(4) What responsibilities of terminal emulation are left to the
application (or other calling) software? For instance, do the built-in
terminal emulators implement scrollback and connection-time saving to
disk, or are there callback hooks to allow client software to handle
these features?
Thanks for any help you can give....
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In article <7764@hoptoad.uucp>, tim@hoptoad.uucp (Tim Maroney) writes: > I have some questions about the Communications Toolbox -- > > (1) What is the connection between statements about licensing and > statements that this will become a standard part of the OS with System > 7.0? Do all products using it have to license it (if they provide a > copy) or will it be subsumed under distributing the Apple system > software for licensing purposes? > Accordign to what we have been told by Apple, any software product which wishes to use the CTB will have to license it SEPARATELY for inclusion on their shipping disks. This will probably change when system 7.0 ships. > (2) The distributed diagrams show only serial port support built in. > I am surprised that support for network terminals (using TCP and ADSP) > and network file transfer (using FTP and perhaps client-side AFP) > weren't slated for the first release. Will these be added later or is > this being left for third parties? If only serial connections modules > are being provided, how sure can we be that it is general enough for > LAN use? > You are correct that Apple's initial offering will include only serial type connection tools (serial and modem). The reasons why they are only offering these are two fold - 1) lack of time/resources to do an ADSP or TCP tool and 2) give the 3rd parities something to do. They have internal testing tools for both ADSP and TCP (using MacTCP) so I think you can say it does work (though I can not comment of how well..) > (3) Will it be compatible with System 6.0.3 as well as 7.0? > Since it will ship BEFORE system 7.0, it will be compatable. > (4) What responsibilities of terminal emulation are left to the > application (or other calling) software? For instance, do the built-in > terminal emulators implement scrollback and connection-time saving to > disk, or are there callback hooks to allow client software to handle > these features? > The terminal tools are ONLY responsible for display of the terminal window. For a VT100, for example, this would be the last 24X80 chars that came in (and I do not know if it will support other heights and widths :-). The calling application is responsible for implementing scrollback, capture to disk or logging printer, etc. Since the calling appl gets the data BEFORE passing it off to the tools as well as AFTER, you can use the data as you see fit. This does pose some questions as to how do you select text across the terminal window AND the scrollback, but I am assured that Apple is working on trying to solve such problems. > Thanks for any help you can give.... No problem Tim... -- +--------------------------------------------------+ Leonard Rosenthol | GEnie : MACgician Lazerware, inc. | MacNet: MACgician UUCP: svc@well.UUCP | ALink : D0025
mnkonar@smallberries.SRC.Honeywell.COM (Murat N. Konar) (06/28/89)
Does anyone have any availability info on Apple's MIDI Manager
or Toolbox or whatever? Are we going to have to wait until
the Apple Corps. vs. Apple Computer suit is settled?
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