jwk@SCRIPPS.EDU ("Two Sheds" Kupec) (09/02/89)
Another problem: A Mac II running a clean System 6.0.3, and NCSA Telnet 2.3. It was fine yesterday. Telnet's "Show Network Numbers..." shows that my Internet number is ok, I have an AppleTalk node, but- my AppleTalk Net is 0 (should be 1). LanRanger's echo command shows no problem, but the strange thing is that the echo works with the Net # set to 0 or 1 (same node #). I can't ping the Mac from the Ethernet side. The chooser shows Appletalk is active- BUT doesn't show my 2 AppleTalk zones. I don't even get the AppleTalk Zone window in the Chooser. The software and external hardware are ok- I verified by swapping CPU's and the replacement IIc worked as expected. I tried zapping PRAM to no avail. I also toggled power a few times and reconnected the PhoneNet. It looks to me like I have a hardware problem in this particular Mac II, but I'm real new to AppleTalk and the FastPath4 but not networking in general. Any tricks of the trade that I can try to get this thing to recognize that it's on the net besides the usual "power it off, reconnect, power it on"? TIA, p.s. Are there any DA's that will report the AppleTalk Net & Node numbers? John Kupec (jwk@scripps.edu)
bwk@mbunix.mitre.org (Barry W. Kort) (09/03/89)
In article <8909011929.AA02186@riscsm.scripps.edu..> jwk@SCRIPPS.EDU ("Two Sheds" Kupec) writes: > A Mac II running a clean System 6.0.3, and NCSA Telnet 2.3. > It was fine yesterday. Telnet's "Show Network Numbers..." shows that > my Internet number is OK, I have an AppleTalk node, but- my AppleTalk > Net is 0 (should be 1). LanRanger's echo command shows no problem, but > the strange thing is that the echo works with the Net # set to 0 or 1 > (same node #). I can't ping the Mac from the Ethernet side. > The chooser shows Appletalk is active- BUT doesn't show my 2 AppleTalk > zones. Your net numbers are established by the Kinetics Box, not by your Mac. Use the FastPath Manager to configure your K-Box with the desired Zone Names and Net Numbers. If you have multiple zones, all K-Boxes must agree on the Zone Name and Net Number of the Ethernet Zone. If you have an EtherTalk card in your Mac, then you will have a Control Panel Device called "Network" which lets you select either AppleTalk or Ethernet. If you select AppleTalk ("Built-In"), you can still use the EtherTalk card with Telnet. Your Telnet Config.Sys file should specify the hardware you want to use for Telnet's TCP/IP services. > I don't even get the AppleTalk Zone window in the Chooser. That means your K-Box is down. > The software and external hardware are OK- I verified by > swapping CPU's and the replacement IIc worked as expected. > I tried zapping PRAM to no avail. I also toggled power a > few times and reconnected the PhoneNet. It sounds to me like you are experiencing problems caused by improper configuration of your K-Box. > It looks to me like I have a hardware problem in this > particular Mac II, but I'm real new to AppleTalk and > the FastPath4 but not networking in general. As you are discovering, modern day networking is not yet plug and play. > Any tricks of the trade that I can try to get this thing to > recognize that it's on the net besides the usual "power it off, > reconnect, power it on"? If you change your network configuration, you may need to reboot. > Are there any DA's that will report the AppleTalk Net & Node numbers? None that I know of. But you can use the Mac application programs such as Inter-Poll or Lan Ranger. --Barry Kort MITRE Network Center