sirkm@ssyx.ucsc.edu (Greg Anderson) (09/07/89)
HyperUnix 1.4.0 is now available for anonymous ftp from ssyx.ucsc.edu
(128.114.133.1). The 'automac' daemons have also been updated.
HyperUnix provides mail and other unix services from HyperCard using
either a serial interface or an AUFS interface (the 'automac' daemons).
___\ /___ Greg Anderson ___\ /___
\ \ / / Social Sciences Computing \ \ / /
\ /\/\ / University of California, Santa Cruz \ /\/\ /
\/ \/ sirkm@ssyx.ucsc.edu \/ \/ALE101@PSUVM.BITNET (Allen Edmiston) (09/09/89)
In article <9034@saturn.ucsc.edu>, sirkm@ssyx.ucsc.edu (Greg Anderson) says: >HyperUnix provides mail and other unix services from HyperCard using >either a serial interface or an AUFS interface (the 'automac' daemons). > ___\ /___ Greg Anderson ___\ /___ one quick question, has anyone made such a stack for VMS systems? it would nice nice if there was a window on the sceen showing what is going on, and maybe a way to catch interactive messages ... does anyone know of such a stack? Allen
steve@cpdaux.UUCP (Steve Lemke) (09/11/89)
In article <9034@saturn.ucsc.edu> sirkm@ssyx.ucsc.edu (Greg Anderson) writes: }HyperUnix 1.4.0 is now available for anonymous ftp from ssyx.ucsc.edu }(128.114.133.1). The 'automac' daemons have also been updated. } }HyperUnix provides mail and other unix services from HyperCard using }either a serial interface or an AUFS interface (the 'automac' daemons). Could you or someone else possibly explain what exactly this does? What is an AUFS interface? If I have a Mac II running A/UX connected to other Macs via Ethernet, would HyperUnix do anything interesting for me? Don't mean to sound stupid, but I hate wasting time downloading stuff I don't need, and I just thought I'd check first... -- ----- Steve Lemke ------------------- "MS-DOS (OS/2, etc.) - just say no!" ----- Internet: cpdaux!steve@apple.com GEnie: LEMKE ----- Or try: apple!cpdaux!steve CompuServe: 73627,570 ----- Quote: "What'd I go to college for?" "You had fun, didn't you?"
johnroc@ucsco.UCSC.EDU (John Rocchio (x2578)) (09/11/89)
In article <485@cpdaux.UUCP> cpdaux!steve@apple.com (Steve Lemke) writes: >In article <9034@saturn.ucsc.edu> sirkm@ssyx.ucsc.edu (Greg Anderson) writes: >}HyperUnix 1.4.0 is now available for anonymous ftp from ssyx.ucsc.edu >}(128.114.133.1). The 'automac' daemons have also been updated. >} >}HyperUnix provides mail and other unix services from HyperCard using >}either a serial interface or an AUFS interface (the 'automac' daemons). > >Could you or someone else possibly explain what exactly this does? What is >an AUFS interface? If I have a Mac II running A/UX connected to other Macs >via Ethernet, would HyperUnix do anything interesting for me? Don't mean to >sound stupid, but I hate wasting time downloading stuff I don't need, and I >just thought I'd check first... > What it is is a HyperCard Home stack and set of "sub-stacks" that write text to a mounted AUFS volume. Meanwhile, there is a Unix daemon running that checks for this file and if it exists, executes it. Usually the text written is a Unix command, for example "finger joe". Unix executes the command and writes the results to another file. HyperCard reads this file and displays the results on your screen. We have provided interfaces for common commands like finger, shell, mail, etc. We have also provided samples of local hacks to the UC System library database, SAS statistical programs and webster dictionary service. New services(buttons) can be easily created by simply padding the given arguments with the necessary Unix info. One way to provide access to these types of services is with the supersrv program available from ssyx.ucsc.edu(128.114.133.1) in /pub/unix-misc. ******************************************* John Rocchio (408-459-2578) UC Santa Cruz Appletalk/Macintosh Hardware and Software Consultant johnroc@ucsco.ucsc.edu johnroc@ucsco.BITNET ...ucbvax!ucscc!ucsco!johnroc
sirkm@ssyx.ucsc.edu (Greg Anderson) (09/12/89)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard,comp.protocols.appletalk Subject: Re: HyperUnix 1.4.0: Mail and Unix services from HyperCard Summary: Expires: References: <9034@saturn.ucsc.edu> <485@cpdaux.UUCP> Sender: Reply-To: sirkm@ssyx.ucsc.edu (Greg Anderson) Followup-To: Distribution: usa Organization: UC Santa Cruz; Division of Social Sciences Keywords: In article <485@cpdaux.UUCP> cpdaux!steve@apple.com (Steve Lemke) writes: >Could you or someone else possibly explain what exactly this does? What is >an AUFS interface? Very good question (no, the answer is not obvious). Are you familiar with AUFS, the Apple/Unix file server that works with CAP (the Columbia AppleTalk Package)? AUFS allows a macintosh to store files on a Unix machine. HyperUnix's "AUFS interface" uses AUFS to 'talk' to Unix. When the Macintosh wishes to execute a bourne shell script, it writes the script to a file on the AUFS volume. Unix processes can also see this file, and in fact there is a background task (the 'automac daemons') that watches for this file (called 'sh.input') to appear. When the daemon sees sh.input has been written, it pipes the file through the bourne shell and redirects the output to another file (called 'stdout'). The mac can then read the output from the shell script by reading this file. I was not the first to use this method; it was described quite some time ago in comp.protocols.appletalk. I unfortunately do not know who came up with this idea. >If I have a Mac II running A/UX connected to other Macs >via Ethernet, would HyperUnix do anything interesting for me? Yes, HyperUnix will work with A/UX. The other Macs won't be able to use HyperUnix unless they can read and write files on the A/UX machine. The automac daemons may need to be changed slightly. Also, HyperUnix uses Bourne shell scripts on a BSD machine; system-V machines may have minor incompatibilities. A/UX is enough like BSD that HyperUnix may be used almost as-is. The only change I know of is you need to change the mail path from /usr/spool/mail/ to whatever path your system saves its mail in. (There's a field in HyperUnix's home stack that contains this information.) >Don't mean to sound stupid... You don't; the term 'AUFS interface' is rather vague. I should probably re-explain the entire project every time I post an update. >----- Steve Lemke ------------------- "MS-DOS (OS/2, etc.) - just say no!" ___\ /___ Greg Anderson ___\ /___ \ \ / / Social Sciences Computing \ \ / / \ /\/\ / University of California, Santa Cruz \ /\/\ / \/ \/ sirkm@ssyx.ucsc.edu \/ \/
kallio@tukki.jyu.fi (Seppo Kallio) (09/12/89)
>In article <9034@saturn.ucsc.edu>, sirkm@ssyx.ucsc.edu (Greg Anderson) says: >>HyperUnix provides mail and other unix services from HyperCard using >>either a serial interface or an AUFS interface (the 'automac' daemons). >> ___\ /___ Greg Anderson ___\ /___ > >one quick question, has anyone made such a stack for VMS systems? it would >nice nice if there was a window on the sceen showing what is going on, and >maybe a way to catch interactive messages ... does anyone know of such a >stack? I have been working with one stack handling Unix and VAX/VMS mail and Unix News (rn). There is some problems: The async port xcmd (fxcmd) is fast (up to 19.2kb) but it does not work wit Macintalk xcmds whitch I know; it is corrupting the stack at Mac SE/30 and Mac II/cx (icons disappear). All buttons do not work - I hope someone writes better stack. Stack is available at tukki.jyu.fi (128.214.7.5) You will have one more problem: the language is finnish not english. Looking at scripts you can see what buttons do. Seppo-- Seppo Kallio kallio@tukki.jyu.fi phone +358 41 292809 University of Jyvaskyla kallio@finjyu.bitnet telefax +358 41 292797 Computing Centre (128.214.7.5) telex Finland 28218 JYU SF Seminaarinkatu 15 Jyvaskyla, Finland
kallio@tukki.jyu.fi (Seppo Kallio) (09/12/89)
My Unix/VMS mail/news stack is in ~ftp/maclib/hypercard/commstack-22.hqx at tukki.jyu.fi (128.214.7.5). -- Seppo Kallio kallio@tukki.jyu.fi phone +358 41 292809 University of Jyvaskyla kallio@finjyu.bitnet telefax +358 41 292797 Computing Centre (128.214.7.5) telex Finland 28218 JYU SF Seminaarinkatu 15 Jyvaskyla, Finland
sirkm@ucbvax.berkeley.edu (Greg Anderson) (09/12/89)
In article <485@cpdaux.UUCP> cpdaux!steve@apple.com (Steve Lemke) writes: >Could you or someone else possibly explain what exactly this does? What is >an AUFS interface? Very good question (no, the answer is not obvious). Are you familiar with AUFS, the Apple/Unix file server that works with CAP (the Columbia AppleTalk Package)? AUFS allows a macintosh to store files on a Unix machine. HyperUnix's "AUFS interface" uses AUFS to 'talk' to Unix. When the Macintosh wishes to execute a bourne shell script, it writes the script to a file on the AUFS volume. Unix processes can also see this file, and in fact there is a background task (the 'automac daemons') that watches for this file (called 'sh.input') to appear. When the daemon sees sh.input has been written, it pipes the file through the bourne shell and redirects the output to another file (called 'stdout'). The mac can then read the output from the shell script by reading this file. I was not the first to use this method; it was described quite some time ago in comp.protocols.appletalk. I unfortunately do not know who came up with this idea. >If I have a Mac II running A/UX connected to other Macs >via Ethernet, would HyperUnix do anything interesting for me? Yes, HyperUnix will work with A/UX. The other Macs won't be able to use HyperUnix unless they can read and write files on the A/UX machine. The automac daemons may need to be changed slightly. Also, HyperUnix uses Bourne shell scripts on a BSD machine; system-V machines may have minor incompatibilities. A/UX is enough like BSD that HyperUnix may be used almost as-is. The only change I know of is you need to change the mail path from /usr/spool/mail/ to whatever path your system saves its mail in. (There's a field in HyperUnix's home stack that contains this information.) >Don't mean to sound stupid... You don't; the term 'AUFS interface' is rather vague. I should probably re-explain the entire project every time I post an update. >----- Steve Lemke ------------------- "MS-DOS (OS/2, etc.) - just say no!" ___\ /___ Greg Anderson ___\ /___ \ \ / / Social Sciences Computing \ \ / / \ /\/\ / University of California, Santa Cruz \ /\/\ / \/ \/ sirkm@ssyx.ucsc.edu \/ \/