[comp.protocols.appletalk] Problems with large localtalk network using junk cables.

leif@control.lth.se (Leif Andersson) (10/12/89)

I am posting this for a friend without net access. Please reply direct
to him.  /Leif
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I would like to know the experiences people have with implementing
localtalk with different kinds of cabling. The original Apple cable is
(of course...) prohibitively expensive. What are peoples experiences
of junk cables?  The middle pin needs not to be connected, right?  Is
some special cable characteristics important?  Is it essential to have
the shield connected? After all, should one by the cable from Apple?
What can be done about the lousy quality of the connectors?

Note that, obviously, for just a few nodes, "everything" works; the
problem is when the network is growing.

Our problem is like follows: We presently have a 12-node localtalk
network, cable length not exceeding 100 meters, We have Mac II's, Mac
SE's, two LaserWriters, one ImageWriter and one Kinetics FastPath 4.1.
The latter connects the localtalk to an Ethernet, consisting of Unix
boxes. It runs the KIP software, and on the Unix side we use the
Columbia Appletalk Package 5.0.  We use the file server Aufs, Telnet
via the Kinetics, printing over Localtalk etc.  We have severe
performance problems with all nodes connected to the network.  These
problems look like follows: Everything shows up in the chooser, but
the network performance is SOO slow that basically the net stops
working.  After disconnecting some nodes, it does not matter which,
everything works nice and fast.  Disconnecting different components
reveals no single faulty node or cable.  The official limits are 30
nodes and 300 meter cable, so we are far below.  Can this depend on
the junk cables we are using?  Or anything else?  Any help?  I have
tried different troubleshooting programs (Netcheck, look, etc) but not
been able to spot the problems.

Please respond to me by mail, since Usenet does not reach University
of Bremen :-(.  I'll summarize to the net.

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