haines@usage.csd.unsw.oz (Dr Ron Haines) (11/26/89)
Some questions on the AppleShare Print Spooler: 1. If you have configured the spooler to spool to a particular printer, can users then choose to bypass the spooler ? (say they were spooling to their local hard disk using the background printing option) 2. If the answer to 1 is 'yes', then does a user who chooses to bypass the spooler get a genuine direct connection to the printer or does the spooler still act as an intermediary between the user's mac and the printer? 3. Can the server and the printer it's spooling to be in different zones? 4. Is there any way for users to inspect (but not alter) the printer queues? 5. How much memory does the spooler require in the server, say to spool to 3 LaserWriters? Thanks to those who have time to respond, Ron Haines haines@usage.csd.unsw.oz.au
vturner@dante.nmsu.EDU (Vaughan Turner) (11/27/89)
I tried mailing a response to you at haines@usage.csd.unsw.oz, but the message bounces. I am a bit leary of posting to the net, is there an alternate address I can reach you at? Also, can anyone else reach this fellow? If so, please let me know, and I'll discuss the matter with our new sysops. Thanks and sorry for the bandwidth, Vaughan -- Vaughan Turner BITNET: mcswvt@nmsuvm1.bitnet Box 3AT Computer Center INTERNET: vturner@nmsu.edu Las Cruces, NM 88001
chris@accuvax.nwu.edu (Chris Krohn) (11/28/89)
In article <504@usage.csd.unsw.oz> haines@usage.csd.unsw.oz (Dr Ron Haines) writes:
##
##Some questions on the AppleShare Print Spooler:
##1. If you have configured the spooler to spool to a particular printer,
##can users then choose to bypass the spooler ? (say they were spooling
##to their local hard disk using the background printing option)
At the Print Server console, you can choose in the OPTIONS dialog
for each printer whether or not to allow Bypass. If you turn it on, users
may bypass the spooler and print directly to the printer.
##2. If the answer to 1 is 'yes', then does a user who chooses to bypass
##the spooler get a genuine direct connection to the printer or does the
##spooler still act as an intermediary between the user's mac and the
##printer?
Genuine direct connection.
##3. Can the server and the printer it's spooling to be in different
##zones?
I have not actually tried this, but I believe that the software will
allow you to capture a printer in a different zone. This would probably
generate quite a bit of traffic over whatever bridge you are using to separate
the zones, and therefore doesn't seem like a good idea.
##4. Is there any way for users to inspect (but not alter) the printer
##queues?
Not without extra software of some sort. I've had good luck with
Timbuktu from Farallon Computing. This software enables you to either view
or control the server machine from a workstation on the network. You could
set up Timbuktu so that users would have the ability to view a replica of
the server's screen at their individual mac, but not have the ability to
control it. There might be an issue of network traffic here, depending on
the number of worksations which would be using Timbuktu simultaneously.
##5. How much memory does the spooler require in the server, say to
##spool to 3 LaserWriters?
##
I think it only requires 1 Mb, but if this server is responsible for
three LWs, and at the same time is expected to perform file service, 2 Mb
(or more depending on the number of users) may be in order.
##Thanks to those who have time to respond,
##Ron Haines
##haines@usage.csd.unsw.oz.au
Chris Krohn
chris@nuacc.acns.nwu.edujoseph@elbereth.rutgers.edu (Seymour Joseph) (11/30/89)
Ron, 1) not unless you choose the bypass option when you set up the spooler. 2) If you set the spooler to allow bypasses, it is my impression that yes, the user gets a direct connection to the printer. 3) It's not very efficient but I have had the server "capture" printers in other zones. It may not make much sense as far as network topology, but I think you can do it. 4) Unless they can see the screen of the server, no. One way would be to use timbuktu on the server and users disks, and allow the users access to observe but not control the server. That would allow them to watch jobs enter an exit the queue. 5) From the manual page 60: AppleShare Print Server (running alone on a mac) Mac 512ke 1 Printer Macs with 1 MB 5 printers AppleShare Print Server (running concurrently with AppleShare File Server) Macs with 1 MB 2 Printers Macs with 2MB 5 Printers You also need gobs of disk space to store the spool files from all these printers. On a followup note, I wish to run a network with a LaserWriter Spooler and a modified Laser Prep file. Is there any way to do this with a Mac based spooler? Basically, how do I edit the supplied LaserWriter 5.2 prep file in a format that can be still used by spoolers. Seymour
jeff@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Jeffrey M White) (11/30/89)
In article <Nov.29.17.08.00.1989.4118@elbereth.rutgers.edu> joseph@elbereth.rutgers.edu (Seymour Joseph) writes: > (stuff about PrintShare under AppleShare deleted) > >On a followup note, I wish to run a network with a LaserWriter Spooler >and a modified Laser Prep file. Is there any way to do this with a >Mac based spooler? Basically, how do I edit the supplied LaserWriter >5.2 prep file in a format that can be still used by spoolers. > How does PrintShare handle different LaserPrep versions? The two nice things about lwsrv running under CAP is that it painless handles any number of different LaserPrep versions, and that since the Prep file is kept on the Unix system, a user doesn't have to have it on their disk, which says space on floppy systems. Does PrintShare work similarly? Jeff White University of Pennsylvania jeff@eniac.seas.upenn.edu
dbirnbau@dante.nmsu.edu (David Birnbaum) (12/02/89)
In article <17465@netnews.upenn.edu> jeff@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Jeffrey M White) writes: > How does PrintShare handle different LaserPrep versions? The two nice > things about lwsrv running under CAP is that it painless handles any number > of different LaserPrep versions, and that since the Prep file is kept on Nice, yes. Painless...no. -- David Birnbaum | "It shouldn't suprise anyone when the Networking, Computer Center | net messes up; the suprise is that New Mexico State University | the damn thing works at all!" Find me at: dbirnbau@nmsu.edu | Please do "make clean" on /dev/earth