[comp.protocols.appletalk] Problems with CAP on DecStation 3100 and GatorBox

crowston@athena.mit.edu (Kevin G Crowston) (01/09/90)

I'm trying to use CAP through the GatorBox.  Actually, we have two
GatorBoxes, one with and one without GatorShare.  Our configuration
is like this:

local talk ----------------+-------------------  Zone:  "ECCF Mac  Lab"
                           |
               GatorBox without GatorShare
                           |
ethernet ======+===========+===+=========+====== Zone:  "Sloan Ethernet"
               |               |         |
           GatorBox          Mac II   DS 3100
             with             with     with      Zone:  "LensKIP"
          GatorShare          AU/X    Ultrix
               |            (DOLLAR) (GUILDER)
               |              
local talk ----+-------------------------------- Zone:  "E53 3rd Floor"

The GatorBox with GatorShare has KIP turned on; the one without 
has KIP turned off.  

I've compiled CAP for two machines, one a Mac II running AU/X (DOLLAR) and
the other a DecStation 3100 running (somewhat hacked) Ultrix (GUILDER).  

On DOLLAR everything works fine (see the transcript below).  

On GUILDER, getzones works and atlook works through the GatorBox
without GatorShare but not through the one with GatorShare.  (That is,
'atlook "ECCF Mac Lab"' returns a list of things and 'atlook "E53 3rd
Floor"' returns nothing.)  Actually, the results aren't identical even
for the GatorBox without GatorShare; on DOLLAR, atlook lists 23
items, on GUILDER, only 9.

I've tried reconfiguring the second GatorBox to be as close as
possible to the first and changing the broadcast addresses of all
machines to the same thing (18.86.0.0) without making much difference.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Kevin Crowston

DecStation transcript follows:

crowston@GUILDER.MIT.EDU 141> getzones
abInit: [ddp:  86.01, 81] starting
Count is 4
ZONE ECCF Mac  Lab
ZONE LensKIP*
ZONE Sloan Ethernet
ZONE E53 3rd Floor
crowston@GUILDER.MIT.EDU 142> atlook "E53 3rd Floor"
abInit: [ddp:  86.01, 81] starting
Looking for =:=@E53 3rd Floor ...
crowston@GUILDER.MIT.EDU 143> atlook "ECCF Mac  Lab"
abInit: [ddp:  86.01, 81] starting
Looking for =:=@ECCF Mac  Lab ...
01 - Software Library:AFPServer@*             [Net:  0.121 Node: 10 Skt:251]
02 - GatorBox01760:GatorBox@*                 [Net:  0.121 Node:128 Skt:128]
03 - :IPADDRESS@*                             [Net:  0.121 Node:128 Skt:129]
04 - 18.86.1.111:IPADDRESS@*                  [Net:  0.121 Node:  1 Skt: 72]
05 - 18.86.0.7:IPGATEWAY@*                    [Net:  0.121 Node:128 Skt:129]
06 - Ray:Macintosh Plus@*                     [Net:  0.121 Node:  1 Skt:214]
07 - Ray:Public Folder\240@*                  [Net:  0.121 Node:  1 Skt:137]
08 - SERVER:Timbuktu Host@*                   [Net:  0.121 Node: 10 Skt:252]
09 - 1211179154:Timbuktu Serial@*             [Net:  0.121 Node: 10 Skt:252]
crowston@GUILDER.MIT.EDU 144>

Mac transcript follows:

crowston@DOLLAR.MIT.EDU 2> getzones
abInit: [ddp:  86.01, 98] starting
Count is 4
ZONE ECCF Mac  Lab
ZONE LensKIP*
ZONE Sloan Ethernet
ZONE E53 3rd Floor
crowston@DOLLAR.MIT.EDU 3> atlook "E53 3rd Floor"
abInit: [ddp:  86.01, 98] starting
Looking for =:=@E53 3rd Floor ...
01 - dollar:AFPServer@*                       [Net:  0.86 Node:128 Skt:130]
02 - xv:AFPServer@*                           [Net:  0.86 Node:128 Skt:131]
03 - GatorBox02428:GatorBox@*                 [Net:  0.86 Node:128 Skt:128]
04 - :IPADDRESS@*                             [Net:  0.86 Node:128 Skt:129]
05 - 18.86.1.90:IPGATEWAY@*                   [Net:  0.86 Node:128 Skt:129]
06 - Bach:LaserWriter@*                       [Net:  0.86 Node:248 Skt:202]
07 - Mozart:LaserWriter@*                     [Net:  0.86 Node:134 Skt:234]
08 - Elesse's mac too:Macintosh@*             [Net:  0.86 Node: 97 Skt:253]
09 - Natasha Collins et al.:Macintosh@*       [Net:  0.86 Node: 32 Skt:253]
10 - Wanda:Macintosh@*                        [Net:  0.86 Node: 45 Skt:253]
11 - Graham Ramsay:Macintosh II@*             [Net:  0.86 Node: 86 Skt:253]
12 - CIS/TK:Macintosh SE@*                    [Net:  0.86 Node: 61 Skt:253]
crowston@DOLLAR.MIT.EDU 4> atlook "ECCF Mac  Lab"
abInit: [ddp:  86.01, 98] starting
Looking for =:=@ECCF Mac  Lab ...
01 - Software Library:AFPServer@*             [Net:  0.121 Node: 10 Skt:251]
02 - lab1:BroadCast@*                         [Net:  0.121 Node:120 Skt:251]
03 - weenie anyone?:BroadCast@*               [Net:  0.121 Node: 22 Skt:251]
04 - GatorBox01760:GatorBox@*                 [Net:  0.121 Node:128 Skt:128]
05 - :IPADDRESS@*                             [Net:  0.121 Node:128 Skt:129]
06 - 18.86.1.111:IPADDRESS@*                  [Net:  0.121 Node:  1 Skt: 72]
07 - 18.86.0.7:IPGATEWAY@*                    [Net:  0.121 Node:128 Skt:129]
08 - ImageWriter 1:ImageWriter@*              [Net:  0.121 Node:152 Skt:138]
09 - ImageWriter2:ImageWriter@*               [Net:  0.121 Node:235 Skt:138]
10 - ImageWriter4:ImageWriter@*               [Net:  0.121 Node:140 Skt:138]
11 - ImageWriter5:ImageWriter@*               [Net:  0.121 Node:149 Skt:138]
12 - LaserWriter A :LaserShared@*             [Net:  0.121 Node:225 Skt:218]
13 - LaserWriter B :LaserShared@*             [Net:  0.121 Node:203 Skt:218]
14 - LaserWriter A  Spooler:LaserWriter@*     [Net:  0.121 Node: 91 Skt:252]
15 - LaserWriter B  Spooler:LaserWriter@*     [Net:  0.121 Node: 91 Skt:253]
16 - Mac Lab AT:MS-DOS 3.3@*                  [Net:  0.121 Node:  6 Skt:  4]
17 - PC30:MS-DOS 3.3@*                        [Net:  0.121 Node: 27 Skt:  4]
18 - Ray:Macintosh Plus@*                     [Net:  0.121 Node:  1 Skt:214]
19 - lab1:Macintosh SE@*                      [Net:  0.121 Node: 22 Skt:252]
20 - lab11:Macintosh SE@*                     [Net:  0.121 Node:120 Skt:252]
21 - NetModem\252 V2400:NetModem\252@*        [Net:  0.121 Node:231 Skt:129]
22 - Ray:Public Folder\240@*                  [Net:  0.121 Node:  1 Skt:137]
23 - SERVER:Timbuktu Host@*                   [Net:  0.121 Node: 10 Skt:252]
24 - 1211179154:Timbuktu Serial@*             [Net:  0.121 Node: 10 Skt:252]

edmoy@violet.berkeley.edu (01/10/90)

In article <1990Jan8.222800.11007@athena.mit.edu> crowston@athena.mit.edu (Kevin G Crowston) writes:
>I've compiled CAP for two machines, one a Mac II running AU/X (DOLLAR) and
>the other a DecStation 3100 running (somewhat hacked) Ultrix (GUILDER).  

Sounds like you need to define BYTESWAPPED and recompile everything on your
3100.  I had the same problem when I brought CAP up on my 3100, with it
only seeing some things in a zone.

It appears that even though a MIPS machine is usually big endian, DEC has
configured it to be little endian, like the rest of the VAXs.  The CAP
Configuration script doesn't know this.

Edward Moy				Principal Programmer - Macintosh & Unix
Workstation Support Services		Workstation Software Support Group
University of California
Berkeley, CA  94720

edmoy@violet.Berkeley.EDU
ucbvax!violet!edmoy

crowston@athena.mit.edu (Kevin G Crowston) (01/10/90)

I recompiled with the BYTESWAPPED set and it now works.  The fact that
it half works without it really masked the problem (I thought if I
got the BYTESWAPPED wrong it would simply not work).

Thank you Edward Moy and Lawrence Anthony.  

Kevin