[comp.protocols.appletalk] Translating FDDI bridges and AppleTalk II

jmj@cernvax.cern.ch (Joop Joosten) (08/06/90)

The title of this article should be:

	  "Why is it already known for 5 months
	  that AppleTalk II is not working over
	  translating Ethernet/FDDI bridges and
	  that nothing has been done about it"

In short: translating Ethernet/FDDI bridges SNAP  encapsulate  Ethernet  2
packets  on  FDDI  and  translate these packets back to Ethernet 2 packets
when bridging from FDDI back to Ethernet.  For this purpose the OUI=0  has
been  taken  with  the  understanding that RFC1042 packets generated on an
Ethernet come out of  an  FDDI/Ethernet  bridge  as  Ethernet  2  packets.
TCP/IP can live with that, since both packet formats should be accepted by
an implementation.

However, Apple decided to be different and although they took a very  good
decision  to use multicasts in AppleTalk II, the AARP is SNAP encapsulated
with an OUI=0 and is therefore coming out of an FDDI/Ethernet bridge as an
Ethernet  2  packet.  This packet is not accepted by the current AppleTalk
II implementations, hence the problem.

I know that at least one vendor of translating bridges is talking to Apple
about  this,  but  they  do not seem to make much progress, since 5 months
have elapsed and there are no results.

It seems that the users have to start putting pressure on  Apple.  May  be
that  will  help  to  turn  them around.  Unfortunately, apart from an odd
article in comp.protocols.tcp-ip, I have not seen anything  on  the  other
newsgroups  read  by  people  who  certainly would like to know about this
problem and who are or will be concerned.