[comp.protocols.appletalk] Dial-up Localtalk Bridging

powsner@csb1.nlm.nih.gov (Seth M Powsner) (09/28/90)

Anyone with experience bridging two small Localtalk networks over dial-up
lines? We've got a dozen machines (pc's, ps2's, mac's, and a laserwriter)
running Tops v2.1 and QuickMail throughout our office suite. We're bridged
to a much larger LocalTalk network (Shiva NetBridge) and from that net
there's a FastPath 4 hooking us to the campus ethernet. So far so good...

Now we're going to have an 'outpost' a few blocks away. We're looking at
using Shiva Telebridge's linked by some 2400 baud dial-up modems to allow
QuickMail access and some word processor file sharing (exchange actually).
Maybe we'd use the printers at each end fax style too. Will this work?
I've seen notes warning about Appletalk via 2400 baud link (and maybe a
patch). Anyone have direct experience with TOPS and or QuickMail over
such a slow link (probably can't afford 9600 baud modems).

Part of the "problem' is that the outpost's machines will be PC's.
Dial-up access to the QuickMail server does not seem to offer (word
processor) file enclosures from a PC. Otherwise we could "mail" the
files around. Among the machines at the outpost, there will likely be
a small TOPS network for word processor file sharing and printer sharing
as there is here.

Any suggestions?

Thanks in advance, Seth Powsner, powsner@nlm.nih.gov powsner@yalemed.bitnet

mark@shiva.com (Mark D. Pesce) (10/15/90)

I hope this isn't too self serving (as I am an employee
of Shiva corp.) but:

2400bps access will be fine for both QuickMail and TOPS.
It won't be a speed demon, in any case, but it will work.
There is a caveat though.  If you have large enclosures
in QuickMail, the protocol does seem to *burp* quite a
bit at 2400bps.  This means that you may have some trouble
getting large (>50K) enclosures across on the first try.

You should be able to use the printers on either side of the link
without any problem at all.  Printing does not seem to be bothered
by low-speed links.

AppleShare, (if you do intend to use it) doesn't work as well
as either QuickMail or TOPS at 2400bps.  The problem is somewhere
deep within AppleShare, and while there is a workaround coded into
the Telebridge alieviate the problem, its a solution we don't
normally recommend.

I have actually done all the things that you're planning to
do and I'm speaking from experience when I say that they'll
all work fine, with the exceptions as noted above.

Hope this helps.

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